There are three ways to prove that the Bible is Wrong About “Original Sin”. First, let’s look at the essence of the story of Adam and Eve.
The Back Story
The Lord God creates the ” Tree of Life” and “The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” and places them in the Garden of Eden. Gen 2:9
The Lord God put Adam in the Garden of Eden Gen 2:5.
The Lord God tells Adam he may not eat of the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” for in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Gen 2:17
The Lord God makes Eve out of Adam’s rib. Gen 2:22
The serpent asks Eve if God had said “Ye shall not eat of every tree in the garden“. Gen 3:1
Eve acknowledges that neither she nor Adam should eat of the “tree which is in the midst of the garden“.
How is Eve supposed to be able to identify the forbidden tree if all she has to go on is that it is “in the midst of the garden”?)
Wrong By Evolution
If you acknowledge that evolution is the process by which we came to be, then there was no Adam and Eve and there was no Garden of Eden and there was no eating of the forbidden fruit. Thus, there was no original sin.
Q.E.D.
Don’t Acknowledge Evolution? then…
Wrong By Critical Thinking
OK … thinking about the back story; let’s apply some critical thinking here. You know, that thing that colleges brag about instilling in their graduates.
Fact: Eve has not yet eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”. Therefore, she has no idea of what is good (God, Adam) and what is evil (serpent).
Fact: A strange looking creature (no breasts, puny nipples, penis, facial hair, bigger and more muscular than she) said something called god said she would surely die if she ate of the fruit of the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”. Eve has no reason to believe this second-hand “hearsay” from this strange looking creature (Adam) because she had not yet eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”.
Fact: Another strange looking creature (serpent) tells Eve, face to face, that she WILL NOT surely die if she eats of “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”.
Fact: Since Eve has not yet eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” she has no basis for evaluating anything said by either the serpent or Adam.
Fact: Eve having not yet eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”, “saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” Ex 3:6
THINK
And why shouldn’t she eat the apple? She wanted to be wise and “the tree was good for food”. What is wrong with that? Adam said “God said, Don’t eat the fruit”; the thing in front of her, the serpent, speaking to her at the moment, said “Do eat the fruit, you will not die”.
Having no ability to distinguish good from evil, Eve did what the last strange creature to talk to her told her. When she ate and saw that the serpent was right, that she did not die, she then had reason to believe that the serpent was the truthsayer and god (whatever ‘god’ is) through Adam, was wrong. From Eve’s perspective, the word or concept “god” had no meaning.
Eve now felt free to give an apple to Adam, knowing that he would not surely die either and that that thing, god, was wrong.
Eve cannot be faulted for selecting fruit from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” when all she had to go by was that it was “in the midst of the garden“. She could not know that a particular tree of the many in “the midst of the garden” was THE TREE. All she knew, for she had not yet eaten from “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” was that she saw “a tree that was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes”.
Conclusion
There is no way Eve could have known she was doing evil because she had not yet eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil”.
Wrong By Biblical Proof
The flood killed all those who were infested with sin. Only perfect Noah and his family survived. Thus, just as sin was propagated via Adam and Eve’s progeny, freedom from sin was propagated by Noah’s progeny.
Wrong By Fact
Evolution is how we came to be. Thus there was no Adam or Eve.
Wrong Due To Christian MisUnderstanding
In Genesis 3:22 we learn that God is not concerned with Eve’s “sin”; does not care that Eve ate the apple. It turns out, the “Lord” is afraid that man might live forever. That is what upsets God
3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Scream of Incredulity
WAIT! Let’s look at that again. God is afraid that man might get a chance to eat from that OTHER tree (the tree of life) so God sends him out of the garden of Eden! Not because Eve ate from the apple but because GOD IS AFRAID that man would eat and live forever.
Conclusion
The concept of “original sin” is without merit and totally discredited. Eve is absolved from creating original sin. She got a bad rap.
Questions
If there was no original sin, what is Jesus saving us from?
How is it that we inherit the alleged “sin” of Adam and Eve?
Why would the Lord God want to prevent his beloved creations from gaining wisdom? Jesus, later on, asks his followers, Does not the Father know what you want and does he not provide? The answer is NO – He does not provide. In fact he sentences most of humanity to eternal torture because he prohibited the acquisition of wisdom; i.e. failed to provide.
Was Adam a Jew?
Was Adam circumcised?
What made Adam, Eve’s husband?
Who performed the marriage ceremony?
When was the marriage ceremony performed?
Was the marriage consummated? If not, they were not married.
When did snakes stop talking?
Why did all knowing God have to ask where Adam and Eve were hiding?
How can anyone believe this cockamamie story?
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You do know that story is likely not to be taken literal right? The issue is that you’ve vastly underestimated our ancestors and believe yourself to be superior and so you assumed a few things that make no sense to assume and have not taken the time to really think about the symbolic meaning of it all.
First, you assume God, who created all of Creation (within the context of the bible) is an idiot. The whole warning regarding regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil requires at least a basic understanding of the concept of good/bad.
Second the tree if the Knowledge if good and evil is symbolic of knowledge, and more specifically of Good and Evil. Which is exactly why it was in paradise because nothing in paradise is technically off limits (being the point of paradise) and as we all know, “knowledge” isn’t good or evil.
Third you were to quick to conclude what everything is that you failed to connect the dots in regard to the bigger picture. Our ancestors may not have had all the technology we had, all they had where stories and a whole lot of unoccupied time to think. Our ancestors tended to be ridiculously complex when it came to artistic expression and symbolism. The Greco-Roman Mystery Religions were extremely secretive and only those initiated knew the whole truth behind the religion that was commonly “known”. However I will try to explain it best I can, typing on my phone.
The tree of the KGE (knowledge of good and evil) was an artistic physical representation of the KGE. Adam and Eve were instructed not to *eat/partake* if the “fruit” of the KGE. Meaning the could still look at it, touch it , smell it, climb the tree, however they should not eat it. Now just think about the symbolism there, did you get a familiars they wanted with the KGE which is why they already had a familiarity of the KGE to know enough what God’s talking about. However they could not ingest it because what happens to food when you ingest it? It becomes part of you. You probably have also heard the saying “the fruits of your labor” fruits being what comes from whatever you’re talking about, in this case labor. In the case of the story of Adam and Eve, what comes as a result of making the KGE a part of you is what leads to original sin.
What we must remember that good and evil are subjective and opinions, there is nothing inherently good or evil. Thus good and evil is not technically true. however by eating the KGE, it becomes a part of them, and you need to pay attention to what happens immediately after they eat the fruit and it becomes a part of them because It represents the turning point and thus shows the turning point and we witness what is meant by original sin. Keep in mind “sin” did not mean evil bad back when written, but rather “to miss the mark” or “to go against oneself”.
The first thing after eating then fruit of the KGE which marks the loss of innocence and fall of man is that they begin covering up parts of their body. In the same way that nothing is inherently good or evil in truth neither is/was the naked body. However because they are the fruit of the KGE, they now embody these things which are not true. Seemingly out of nowhere they decided that certain parts of the body are bad and must be covered and that some are good. This is basically the root of every problem that we have in our life. Things like feeling ugly, unloved, not good enough, are all made up things. all the societal structures and standard we feel must be met that cause unhappiness, the opinion/pride that cause wars. All because we embody these beliefs and hold them as literal truths.
This is also why original sin is often said to be inherited, Not because there is some kind of DNA inheritance with a cultural one As parents often teach the kids the way to live and live kids get the example from their parents, and this is why it survives to this day because to this day we have not been able to get rid of this, It is deeply ingrained in everything we do and neither do we acknowledge the actual truth of the matter enough. And now look what happens we can look at any naked animal but our body is a perversion, something to laugh at and be embarrassed about.
It is also man’s original sin because if you notice up before then there was nothing necessarily bad in creation. Even when God knows this Adam is alone and needs a partner He says for it is *not good* that he be alone making it more in line with neutrality but acknowledging that it could be better. Get after eating of the fruit and that’s when actual “bad things were introduced”.
There’s A lot more in the creation myth than just this and there’s stuff like the snake (who speaks with a forked tongue 😉) the two creation stories, the sudden name changes of God, and many more little details that all have some kind of deep meaning of a complex concept they’re trying to portray without saying it directly. Just like a parable, there’s are reasons to tell parables, usually because you respect something that you discovered yourself more than something that you’re told and you know it better than simply being told. Just like this whole Adam and Eve thing It probably would have been a lot better had you discovered yourself but I told you it so it’s not as impactful as if you had, and perhaps you don’t understand or respect it as much.
Just spend as much time and (serious) effort as you do trying to prove the bible wrong as you do trying to prove it right and you should be ok, also respect your predecessors Believe it or not they were much better than you as many ways cuz you are better than them, If not possibly more because they don’t have as many time wasters as we do.
The Adam and Eve Story is in Genesis and not Exodus!
Who said it was in Exodus and what does it matter? It’s still nonsense wherever it is written.
You really need to do a little reading on the theology of “Original Sin.”
#1- Original Sin has little to nothing to do with evolution (which I, as a Christian, accept Evolution on all levels- both macro and mirco- I would advise anyone who is interested in this topic to research Francis Collins. Evolution and Christianity are in perfect harmony. MANY Christians, including myself- accept evolution and science).
#2- As far as Original Sin goes….. There are 2 main schools of thought-
1- Calvinism
2- Arminianism
There are more schools of thought on Original Sin, but these are the (normally) most common 2.
To make a long story short- I reject Calvinism and accept Arminianism.
Calvinism (somewhat) says certain people are selected (the elect) to receive salvation, and others won’t.
I believe in 100% free will- and could never believe that a person is predestined for anything.
Original Sin is honestly a stupid argument among Christians, as the end result (of sin) is going to happen, period. My hero, CS Lewis, also thought it was a non-issue, for the most part. God exists beyond space and time- so time has no impact to God (if you’ve seen the movie Interstellar, that’s a decent example- how time was a physical dimension and not bound by the past, present, or future). In other words, God has neither knowledge of the past or future- it is simply “knowledge all the same” to Him.
Arminianism says Jesus died for everyone, most Calvinists say He died for only the one’s who believe.
Calvinists often say God’s grace is irresistible. I, like Arminianism, believe it can be resisted (Satan is a great example of this).
Think about it like this- you fall in love with a man/woman. Would it be/feel the same if you forced that person to love you? Of course not, you would want it to come naturally.
I also have several responses to the necessity of evil, along with how God takes care of bad luck (such as someone being born to a Islamic terrorist father, etc. – it is called “middle knowledge,” but that is for another day.
So to explain Arminius and his thought process (Romans 5:12)-
“Therefore, just as through one main sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned.”
#1- “Because all sinned” means that all people suffer the consequences of Adam’s sin- when they personally sin (Adam didn’t make him or her sin- it was completely on their own).
#2- Man inherits the option/tendency to do evil, but this does not fall on the person just because it’s available.
#3- Man does not have the ability to do it on his own- but the corruption passed down from Adam is physical/intellectual. Therefore man has the power to initiate the beginnings of salvation- but cannot do it all on his own.
To end- I also do not believe that “If Adam and Eve did not sin, they would have lived forever.” This death was a reference to the “spiritual death,” not the “physical death.” The reason for this- if they were meant to live forever, A- What would be the point of the tree, B- God said the creation was “good” and not “great,” and C- If they lived forever- we would not be here today, as the world would have been entirely populated a long, long, long time ago.
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BG Evolution & Christianity are not compatible in any way ,shape, or form; people are deluding themselves.
You are speaking about a Christian god, Adam & Eve, salvation , Jesus as if they are facts, which they are not. It is a waste of time to discuss these fairy tales without proof to back them up…
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But didn’t Eve committed the sin ? And not Adam ? Because she gave him the fruit of the tree, he didn’t pick it she feed him that but he took the bullet for it to, why didn’t God just kick her out like the first wifey ? … Lol
“Evolution and Christianity are in perfect harmony.” Thou shouldst attend a Christian sermon about evolution. I have and you’re so wrong.
reading this article was like to hear a baby trying to explain the quantum mechanics theory. Be far from doing so in order to not bring calamity to your willful ignorance.
I appreciate the thought that went into this but I do disagree with a few points, leading to a different conclusion.
Some Christians accept evolution as the way God created, however I believe the best way to understand the bible is to take it as literally as possible. Genesis claims a week of creation and it seems reasonable to accept that. So I would not acknowledge the Wrong By Evolution argument.
Wrong By Critical Thinking: I would argue premise 2, that Eve had not yet seen God. 3:8 seems to indicate that they were use to God walking in the garden and therefore hid in embarrassment.
Wrong by Biblical Proof: Noah was not perfect
Wrong Due to Christian MisUnderstanding: An argument of absence is a logical fallacy. Just because God explicitly acknowledges Adam’s sin does not mean He isn’t concerned with Eve’s.
As for your bonus questions:
How is it that we inherit the alleged “sin” of Adam and Eve? Rom 5:12 Just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, in this way death came to all people because all sinned.
Why would the Lord God want to prevent his beloved creations from gaining wisdom? He knew He would have to punish sin and didn’t want that.
Jesus, later on, asks his followers, Does not the Father know what you want and does he not provide? The key here is who Jesus is talking to. Not the general population, but His followers. God does not make the same promises to unbelievers as he does to believers.
Was Adam a Jew? nope
Was Adam circumcised? probably not since circumcision wasn’t started until Abraham
What made Adam, Eve’s husband? God declared it to be
Who performed the marriage ceremony? Probably wasn’t a ‘ceremony’ as much as simply God saying it was so
When was the marriage ceremony performed? After they both woke up probably
Was the marriage consummated? If not, they were not married. Why not? (but yes probably was)
When did snakes stop talking? after they were cursed/didn’t have the devil in it
Why did all knowing God have to ask where Adam and Eve were hiding? to allow Adam and Eve to admit their guilt
How can anyone believe this cockamamie story? Everyone has belief. Some believe in Evolution some believe in creation as taught by the Bible. Everyone has to take a step of faith in some direction.
Really? Evolution is NOT a “belief” in the same way that christians believe in the fairy tales of the bible. Evolution is a scientific FACT. Don’t accept the fact of evolution, then believe in the fairy tale of the “one” of the creation stories in the bible. Yes, there are two different stories of the creation of Adam and Eve. And, who are the other gods that “god” was talking to? Having the knowledge of good and evil makes them just like us!
I don’t really know if any of that garden of eden jazz is even interpretable? Ya talk about a set up here to damn ones own creation?
No, I’m not a born again death cult fanatic hoping to die soon, so I can go to paradise with that Jesus dude or whatever may be my final destination I’m a realist and I fear the unknown.
Heck folks,I would be a liar if I said I don’t fear death because I really do big time. The thought of this dying and never seeing my love one disturbs me greatly as it should any living being who loves life. I do believe something greater than myself created me and all that i survey in this existence, for what purpose i can’t truly say cuz I just don’t know? They say death is just part of living and we shouldn’t fear it but I do I do I do. I’ve had many nightmares over the years in which I died. Yes, one that sticks with me like that super glue jazz is part of me now. I was walking down some street smiling at everyone I met. It was a bright sunny warm day. I heard bird squealing away and this feeling of peace. Then like someone flipping a switch, got this pain in my chest, it was very deep. This was quickly followed by a sensation of my body going completely numb. Kinda like when ya fall asleep on your arm and wake up with it completely numb, it feels like its no longer part of your body untill that blood starts circulating once again. I couldn’t move a muscle cuz I couldn’t feel anything at all, that’s why this was so horrifying that feeling of helplessness was a real bummer indeed. There was no more bright sunlight just this darkness and a disturbing feeling of emptiness like I had become very small and no longer mattered. I’m not ready to just give up searching for my creator for I just don’t like to think about my eventual extinction without having some answers answered now not then….
Emmanuel states, “There is more to God than the world knows”.
Translation: “Humans can imagine things they cannot explain”.
Emmanuel states, “blah blah God blah blah repent blah blah faith”.
Translation: “I am an easily brainwashed person, brainwashed from birth and making no attempt to break free from that brainwashing”.
No one knows a damned thing about God.
Actually I think in the Bible God himself united Adam and Eve. That’s probably the most possible.
That is a poor explanation. Don’t assume you know what Eve knew before she disobeyed God. Don’t assume she would not learn about a wide variety of wonderful things unless she disobeyed God. You cannot conclude that she had no frame of reference to be able to distinguish between good and evil. Just because you don’t believe disobeying God is evil, does not mean you are right.
Take a good course, a basic one, like introduction to the old testament before you continue making error after error after error. Practically not one point you make is valid, no matter how much you wish you were on target.
Gadarenetoday states, “You cannot conclude that she had no frame of reference to be able to distinguish between good and evil.”
Translation: “God was either lying or confused when he called it ‘the tree of knowledge of good and evil’, because Eve could already tell good from evil before eating from the tree. Either that or Gadaren is just a tard xtian who doesn’t even know how to make up believable apologetics lies.”
Not only did Adam & Eve not have a knowledge of good and evil, they also had no concept of death because nothing died. Also their temptation to eat of the forbidden fruit was perpetrated by the once super archangel the cherub Lucifer. He was able to turn one third of the angels in heaven against god. How difficult would it have been for him to convince the naive Eve to disobey god? Why did god allow Satan in the garden of Eden knowing his intentions? It is as though god wanted man to sin and made sure that it occurred by not giving Adam & Eve an awareness of what is good or evil. They could not differentiate between good and evil so it was easy for Satan to deceive them. It’s like giving someone who doesn’t know anything about math a math test and when they fail they are punished for failing the test.
Satan isn’t in the creation story and Lucifer isn’t satan. That only developed later on. You can read more here. http://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/princes-of-darkness-the-devils-many-faces-in-scripture-and-tradition/
Or save your time, and instead of reading that nonsense just realize that the creation story, satan, and lucifer are all fairy tale creatures.
Please do not address God as something every again cause even a 5 year old child wouldn’t address him in such manner
whats your understanding of death ?
because I know it as a state when on is separated from one form to another, so in the case of Eve and Adam they died because they were separated from God by sin.
Also God is not afraid of man he didn’t want a sinner who will not be able to redeemed for redemption was gotten from Jesus Christ so just imagine man not being able to die how will redemption be attained
remember God didn’t stop man from eating the tree of life so he wasn’t afraid man would live forever
the serpent was the bad guy here for he motivated Eve and Adam to cause a separation between them and God
please if you are not sure of something in the bible please ask the Holy spirit so you don’t perverse the Gospel
Emmanuel states, “please if you are not sure of something in the bible please ask the Holy spirit so you don’t perverse the Gospel”
How does somebody ask questions of a fairy tale creature? How do you perverse a gospel that perverts itself?
Actually, the serpent is the good guy because he tells Eve the truth: she didn’t die. This is a polytheistic tale in which the gods kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden so they won’t overrun the other gods with their progeny.
The truth about this story is SO much more interesting than the infantile nonsense spewed by Nicholas and his ilk. Nicholas: time to let go of your kindergarten views and open your eyes to the fascinating world. I’ll refrain from the Willie Wonka spoiler; one can only take so many shocks to the system at one time.
To eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil…means taking on value systems. God did not want us to take on value systems. We have no right to judge anything as right or wrong, as good or evil because everything that takes place on planet Earth is in Divine Order, no matter how wonderful or terrible it may seem to us. To understand this a little better, it must be realized that all mankind is the incarnation of God, not just Jesus. God is literally everything and everyone. All of existence is God’s three-dimensional fantasy. Whatever happens to one of us is happening to an incarnation of God. It is an incarnation of God that is being done to. When you make someone wrong you make wrong an incarnation of God. That separates you from the oneness of all things…and you fall from God’s grace.
Oh My God…. where did you get that shit?
“We have no right to judge anything as right or wrong, as good or evil because everything that takes place on planet Earth is in Divine Order”. Do you really believe that? Do you live your life judging nothing, no one? I am going to use that stupid quote and mock it where ever and when ever I can. So in your world, you have no opinions? You are telling me that you would watch and give that christian shit-eating grin while you watched a young girl be sold into slavery and used as a sex toy by big swarthy hairy men? And you would see that as God’s divine order? What if it were your daughter? Or how about Catholic priests molesting little boys? No judgement there? All part of God’s devine order? What if it were your son? Same “god’s divine order” bullshit? Please god – I pray this guy posting on my website has no children. They would probably end up as simple as he is.
Who says what you said is true? How do you know that? Did you just make that up? Why is it that there are 10,000 religions extant and maybe 10 of them could come up with what you just said?
Which god are you talking about? Zeus, Jupiter, Ra? Apollo? or is it the one in Deuteronomy 10:17 “For the LORD your God is God of gods” wherein even your God admits that there are other gods. He just claims that he is the god of gods but gives no evidence.
I don’t give a “Rat’s Ass” if I fall from God’s grace.There is no God you pontificating simpleton.
I know understand why some people never change you are blinded by your own knowledge
you claim this and that check Ps82:6 and don’t be destroyed by your own knowledge
Repent from your foolish ways and stop being wise in your own eyes there is more to God than the world knows .
Adolf Hitler must have been complying with the divine order.
Thanks for telling us what it means… To YOU! You’re the only one you can speak for or in the name of. Simple arrogance!