The story of the Tower of Babel, in just 10 verses presents the Christian with 8 inconvenient truths, each one of which shows, once again, just how totally wrong the Wholly Holey Holy Bible is.
First, a look at the most relevant of the 10 verses:
And the beginning of his (Nimrod’s) kingdom was Babel, Gen 10:10
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.Gen 11:1
let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; Gen 11:4
And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded Gen 11:5
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Gen 11:6
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. Gen 11:7
… and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.Gen 11:9
Now For The Inconvenient, Unpleasant Truths
- “…whole earth was of one language”.
No it was not.The Babel story contradicts earlier bible stories- in Genesis 10:5, we learn that “the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.” This verse is referring to the descendants of Japheth. One of the three sons of Noah. Thus we have the Gentiles already in their lands, each with their own tongue.
- in Genesis 10.20 we learn that “These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.”
- in Genesis 10:31 we learn that “These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.”
So, it turns out that “And the whole earth was NOT of one language, and of one speech as Genesis 11:1 says it was.
- “…beginning of his kingdom was Babel”
The Babel story is set three generations after Noah. Noah begat Ham who begat Cush who begat Nimrod, the “mighty hunter” and the beginning of his (Nimrod’s) kingdom was Babel. How large was the “city” of Babel at the beginning? We can’t say, but there is not much time elapsed between Nimrod founding Babel (Genesis 10:10) and the Tower of Babel story (Genesis 11:1). There is no indication that anyone went to Babel with Nimrod. Other sons of Cush went together to form other cities in the land of Shinar.And the beginning of his (Nimrod’s) kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. Genesis 10:10
There is no reason to believe that there was anything resembling a “city” of Babel; maybe Nimrod and a couple of others. There could not have been anything like a kingdom of Babel.
. - ” and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
God is afraid??? There is no evidence of a loving, merciful, just, omnipotent God in this verse.
* Not omnipotent he seems to think that he doesn’t have the power to prevent them from “dong that which they have imagined to do“: God does not know that he is omnipotent.
* The loving, merciful, just God doesn’t want his creations to live their dreams?The Lord, your God wants to suppress his creations’ imagination and their ability to carry out their dreams. He doesn’t really want us to be godlike.
. - .. came down to see the city
Came down to see the city? Why did He have to “come down”. This means that the lord is not omniscient. He has to personally experience an event in order to know about it. That sure puts the lie to an omniscient God.
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- let us go down,
Let US go down” Who is “US”?
The use of the word “us” implies plural; more than one. Who is God talking to?
This is prima facia evidence that there is more than one God.
. - and there confound their language,
Confounding language does not cause dispersion. To confound the language of a group of people would not cause them to disperse. It would draw them closer together. No one would leave a group of friends to venture into the unknown just because they can’t understand them.People who have different languages communicate quite well with gestures, pantomime, smiles, etc. It wouldn’t be long before they would have evolved another common language.
An omniscient God would know this and would not have even bothered to “go down and there, confound their language”.
. - let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven;
Really? God actually thought the good citizens of Babel could really build a tower so high it would reach Him in heaven. An omniscient God would know that there was no way to build a tower high enough to reach into the heavens. Thus, God is not omniscient.
. - scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth
The inhabitants were each individually scattered abroad upon the face of ALL the earth. OK – so the ten, twenty inhabitants of the city of Babel are scattered abroad upon the face of ALL the earth. (By the way, that would include the continents of Africa, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America and South America).How is it then that there are many more languages today then there were dispersed inhabitants of Babel? if the only way new languages form is when God comes down and confounds language, and the Bible tells us of only one time that he did so, then there should be only a handful of languages. The most extensive catalog of the world’s languages, generally taken to be as authoritative as any, is that of Ethnologue (published by SIL International), whose detailed classified list as of 2009 included 6,909 distinct languages.
Summary
The Tower of Babel fable presents your God as not omniscient but stupid, not as loving, but selfish and cruel; it contradicts earlier biblical stories about the origin of multiple languages, it presents a scenario opposite of what people would do, and it contradicts what everyone knows about languages; i.e. they evolve and are still evolving.
This nonsense story is simply an attempt by bronze age man to explain the different languages – which would have been a real mystery to the ignorant people of the time. It shows that, if there is a God, he isn’t very powerful or very smart.
The Truth Is
The earth was never of one speech. The history of language is as full and complex as the history of mankind. See History of Language. It is patently obvious to anyone with a working brain that this story was an attempt of either J, E, D, or P (See documentary hypothesis) to explain how different languages came to be. Of course the author of this “explanation” was unaware of the other author’s (J, E, D or P) “explanation” because the various writings weren’t combined until after all had been written.
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Critiquing the Bible with no understanding of the original languages or literary styles (ie taking hyperbole and making it literal) is a bit like a 5th grader telling NASA engineers how to build a rocket.
Some of your critiques are just plain ignorant. If you study Hebrew writing style, and many passages in the Bible, the text will reveal a birds eye view of a general story or theme, and then recapitulate the specifics of that theme.
So claiming the passages in Genesis 10 occurred before Babel is a serious lack of comprehension mixed with your agenda. Genesis 10 gave a general overview of the dispersion of nations, then Genesis 11 zooms in to explain the major event that causes the dispersion. This technique occurs many times throughout the entire Bible.
It’s pretty sad that you even considered that a basis for critique in the first place. As I said, ignorance and lack of comprehension.
No ignorance! It simply, did not happen the way that the Bible says! Anyone being ignorant, is you! The Bible, is supposed to be meant for every living human being! But, when you have to twist, gaslight, and pretend as if things are taken out of context, then the Bible is not for EVERYONE!
I think some people actually think the bible is the word of god and everythig in it is true and real! The bible is a hodge podge of myths, fables, and stories from many different cultures and generations. Most of it has caused more death, division, and warfare than any other subject in the universe. That’s how you know it’s from men not a “loving, caring god”
God does not exist!
Amazingly, the Biblical god isn’t all too upset with the skyscrapers of today which would have dwarfed the Tower of Babel. He seems to have shrugged his shoulders and muttered, “Whatever”….or he doesn’t exist at all.
It’s estimated that the Pyramids took about 25,000 people to build, yet here we have the story of an enormous building, higher than the pyramids, being built about 120 years after a world flood which wiped out everyone except 8 people in a boat. One has to wonder where all these people came from to build this tower. There is no way 8 people could reproduce quickly enough to provide the enormous man power it would take for it’s construction. Why do people believe this utter nonsense? Well, when you realize that people will believe any ridiculous, illogical, wacked out story as long as it keeps their worldview safe in their heads you’ll have people believing in magical pixie dust Babel stories.
God confused the languages of his people not because he feared them reaching heaven by building a tall tower (that’s simply not possible), he did it because the people of Babel sought praise/honor for themselves. The people of Babel wanted earthly validation and they filled themselves with pride, instead if turning to God to renew and fill their souls. He confused their language for his peoples own good, so that they might seek him and be satisfied.
I hope and pray that you have a blessed day.
The Bible never implies anything about pride! Don’t add your twists to the situation.
Even a tower of 8150 feet, as claimed in the Book of Jubilees would not reach to the heavens. Many mountains are far taller and, contrary to the myths in the Bible, going up onto a tall mountain still does not let you reach the heavens or talk to God face to face.
The reason for different languages is linguistic drift, not the action of a God. If God wanted people to stop building the tower she presumably would have told them to stop. If she could change their languages at will then she could also simply change their minds and make them not want to build a tower. The “just so” story in the Bible suggests that God is the author of confusion which contradicts 1 Cor 14:33. Confusing languages would have all kinds of damaging side effects, such as making wars more likely due to misunderstandings. It would be like God destroying all life on Earth because she was trying to kill one fly. It is not a morally justifiable action for her to punish the innocent along with the offenders, especially when she didn’t say that what they were doing was even wrong. There are many skyscrapers today, and aside from some of the doubtful figures in the Book of Jubillees, they are all much taller than any built in the ancient world. ,
Why not come down and tell them they are wasting their time? He seemed to be a bit more hands on in the old testament.
The truth is that God doesn’t need to prove his power or existence to you (a lie is a lie even if everybody believes it and the truth is the truth even if nobody believes it )YHWH is the truth
Yes, he does!!! If he wants people to believe and follow him!!!
Gen. 10 covers hundreds of years (man lived much longer and had time to have many children) over which this “small city of 10-20 people” would actually have had time to become a kingdom of many. It tells us Noah’s descendants scattered into nations.
Gen 11 flashes back to a specific time before the scattering, when this tower was being built so mankind could disobey God’s command to “go and fill the earth.” At this time, the world was in fact, of ONE language.
God was not afraid of man building a tower that would actually reach Him. Nor was he afraid of the other feats mankind could accomplish if united. He simply had a desire for them to fill the earth first. (Look at the structures, aircraft vehicles, rockets…etc We have today) It wasn’t time for that. God said “fill the earth”, man said “stay here and let’s make a name for ourselves”, God said “no”. It’s not difficult to understand.
Quoted from the above article:
” * Not omnipotent he seems to think that he doesn’t have the power to prevent them from “dong that which they have imagined to do“: God does not know that he is omnipotent. ”
Of course God knew He was omnipotent. He had the power to stop them- and so He did… 😆
Again, quoted frim the article:
” * The loving, merciful, just God doesn’t want his creations to live their dreams?The Lord, your God wants to suppress his creations’ imagination and their ability to carry out their dreams. He doesn’t really want us to be godlike. ”
Suppressing the aspirations and creativity of mankind was not the reason for halting the construction of the Tower of Babel. As I previously stated, mankind was disobeying God’s charge for them, to fill the earth.
God created us to be creative, like He is creative. He is also God though- and as the Creator of mankind (and everything else) He has the right and authority to give us boundaries as He pleases. His goodness is the reason He limits us. Knowing more than we know- seeing outcomes we cannot- He guides those who obey and love Him, like a parent does, and He corrects and punishes us when we defy Him. These people were prideful, arrogant, and hated God. I’d say He went easy on them.
Let’s move on to God’s omniscience. (Knowing all things) God “coming down” to the city has nothing to do with Him needing to scope it out. In Gen. 6, we see that the fallen angels (sons of God) had taken human wives and corrupted the earth by having children with them. Noah, described as “perfect in his generations” found grace in the eyes of the Lord and was rescued from God’s judgement against His defiled creation. It doesn’t say Noah was the only one who’s bloodline was pure, but it does say he was a righteous man- and a preacher of righteousness. Everyone else desired only evil continually. God says His Spirit will not dwell with mankind forever, and says man has 120 years left. In this time, Noah obediently builds the ark in preparation for the flood that will come.
When God “came down” to the city in Gen. 11, this is because His Spirit had been lifted from the face of the earth. It has no relation to His omniscience OR His omnipresence. He knows all and sees all- yet His Spirit can dwell with or be withdrawn away from us.
The phrases found in scripture, “Let us make man in our image” and “Let us go down” points, not to gods in plural, but to God in 3 persons. God is a triune being.
The Father
The Word (that became flesh= The Son)
The Holy Spirit
Now… Regarding the opinion-based argument that confusing the languages would not disperse people, but “draw them closer” … this sounds nice in theory- but back then, overcoming language barriers was not a thing. They all spoke and understood one another at that point. Imagine being there. SUDDENLY everyone around you is “babbling” and freaking out. You’re running around trying to figure out why you can’t understand anyone, and they can’t understand you, and finally you hear a familiar word or phrase… Relieved, you run to this person (possibly a family member) and you know what they’re saying and they know what you’re saying. You hug. Maybe cry. You try to find others among you that you can understand. As everyone is doing this, in spite of the panic, little groups form. People decide it’s best to go off and settle with like-speaking people. For a while, it would surely cause division. God wasn’t confusing them to divide them forever- just to address the disobedience to His command to fill the earth. Once the goal was accomplished, man began to intermingle and learn ways to communicate again.
The Bible says nothing about God being the only one who can make languages. However, at that moment, etymology was born. Over time, new dialects and languages would develop. God says He is not the author of confusion. So, while this disruption confused momentarily, it would lead to a future filled with greater beauty. Poetry, art, culture, music…. the things we enjoy and love today were made possible because God lovingly stopped the wicked disobedience of mankind and dispersed them- creating a beautiful tapestry of diversity.
By this time, boats existed and could easily disperse people to other continents. As we see today, the continents are slowly but surely drifting apart. So, at the time they were closer together. But even if they weren’t, it wasn’t impossible for people to travel- and the Bible doesn’t say how long it took. Just that the earth was eventually filled because of what occurred that day.
I’ve ways thought this story was one of the silliest in the bible. Your hypothesis was good but against what the scripture says. It’s obvious geographic obstacles are the main reason for language. Also did he choose language by race? Because most languages seem to come from different races. Zap this color gets this language and zap this one gets this language. I believe there may be a creator but the bible is made from man and stories like these only confirms it.
Don’t ou understand? I don’t believe a word of what scripture says.
Thank you, Ally! Addressed some questions I’ve had regarding the account, as well. I heard Greg Laurie ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOCCEqaP70 ) do a nice dive into the text and talk about how the translation of the verse about how God “came down” has a touch of humor to it, almost that he had to “stoop very low to see it” (as Greg says) because of how small it was to God haha. Thank you and continue to hold fast to the truth of the Word!
Please address the lies contained in this book!
Gen. 10 covers hundreds of years (man lived much longer and had time to have many children) over which this “small city of 10-20 people” would actually have had time to become a kingdom of many. It tells us Noah’s descendants scattered into nations.
Gen 11 flashes back to a specific time before the scattering, when this tower was being built so mankind could disobey God’s command to “go and fill the earth.” At this time, the world was in fact, of ONE language.
God was not afraid of man building a tower that would actually reach Him. Nor was he afraid of the other feats mankind could accomplish if united. He simply had a desire for them to fill the earth first. (Look at the structures, aircraft vehicles, rockets…etc We have today) It wasn’t time for that. God said “fill the earth”, man said “stay here and let’s make a name for ourselves”, God said “no”. It’s not difficult to understand.
Quoted from the above article:
” * Not omnipotent he seems to think that he doesn’t have the power to prevent them from “dong that which they have imagined to do“: God does not know that he is omnipotent. ”
Of course God knew He was omnipotent. He had the power to stop them- and so He did… 😆
Again, quoted frim the article:
” * The loving, merciful, just God doesn’t want his creations to live their dreams?The Lord, your God wants to suppress his creations’ imagination and their ability to carry out their dreams. He doesn’t really want us to be godlike. ”
Suppressing the aspirations and creativity of mankind was not the reason for halting the construction of the Tower of Babel. As I previously stated, mankind was disobeying God’s charge for them, to fill the earth.
God created us to be creative, like He is creative. He is also God though- and as the Creator of mankind (and everything else) He has the right and authority to give us boundaries as He pleases. His goodness is the reason He limits us. Knowing more than we know- seeing outcomes we cannot- He guides those who obey and love Him, like a parent does, and He corrects and punishes us when we defy Him. These people were prideful, arrogant, and hated God. I’d say He went easy on them.
Let’s move on to God’s omniscience. (Knowing all things) God “coming down” to the city has nothing to do with Him needing to scope it out. In Gen. 6, we see that the fallen angels (sons of God) had taken human wives and corrupted the earth by having children with them. Noah, described as “perfect in his generations” found grace in the eyes of the Lord and was rescued from God’s judgement against His defiled creation. It doesn’t say Noah was the only one who’s bloodline was pure, but it does say he was a righteous man- and a preacher of righteousness. Everyone else desired only evil continually. God says His Spirit will not dwell with mankind forever, and says man has 120 years left. In this time, Noah obediently builds the ark in preparation for the flood that will come.
When God “came down” to the city in Gen. 11, this is because His Spirit had been lifted from the face of the earth. It has no relation to His omniscience OR His omnipresence. He knows all and sees all- yet His Spirit can dwell with or be withdrawn away from us.
The phrases is scripture “Let us make man in our image” and “Let us go down” points, not to God’s in plural, but to God in 3 persons. God is a triune being.
The Father
The Word (that became flesh= The Son)
The Spirit
Now… Regarding the opinion-based argument that confusing the languages would not disperse people, but “draw them closer” … this sounds nice in theory- but back then, overcoming language barriers was not a thing. They all spoke and understood one another at that point. Imagine being there. SUDDENLY everyone around you is “babbling” and freaking out. You’re running around trying to figure out why you can’t understand anyone, and they can’t understand you, abd finally you hear a familiar word or phrase… Relieved, you run to this person (possibly a family member) and you know what they’re saying and the know what you’re saying. You hug. Maybe cry. You try to find others among you that you can understand. As everyone is doing this in spite of the panic, little groups form. People decide it’s best to go off and settle with like-speaking people. For a while, it would surely cause division. God wasn’t confusing them to divide them forever- just to a dress the disobedience to His command to fill the earth. Once the goal was accomplished, man began to intermingled and learn ways to communicate again.
The Bible says nothing about God being the only one who can make languages. However, at that moment, etymology was born. Over time, new dialects and languages would develop. God says He is not the author of confusion. So, while this disruption confused momentarily, it would lead to a future filled with greater beauty. Poetry, art, culture, music…. the things we enjoy and love today we’re made possible because God lovingly stopped the wicked disobedience of mankind and dispersed them- creating a beautiful tapestry of diversity.
By this time, boats existed and could easily disperse people to other continents. As we see today, the continent’s are slowly but surely drifting apart. I’m sure at the time they were closer together. But even if they weren’t, it wasn’t impossible for people to travel- and the Bible doesn’t say how long it took. Just that the earth was eventually filled because of what occurred that day.
How can I delete a comment? I posted one twice, the second with typo corrections I hadn’t previously noticed.
Too many typos. Had to repost. Don’t know how to delete my first comment.
Keep reading the scripture. The Book will re walk truth to you. I to have struggled for answers.
The more I read, the more disgusted I get!!!
Also it is funny that you think you are so much smarter than Christians but your grammar is awful.
No one said that they are smarter than any Christians! But, these are the facts!!! Not theory, but facts!!! Anything else in this life, you would want the facts!!! Not trying to change your mind, just presenting you with the facts!!! Wouldn’t you want the facts if your money was concerned? Wouldn’t you want to make more informed decisions???
Good points. Im just shaking my head at both sides on this issue. Between the callous antagonism from some atheists and the abysmal lack of critical thinking from some theists. But thats a well thought out point. If your’e not willing to bet your money on something comparatively flimsy, then why invest so much spiritual faith in this. If someone guy says, hey if you invest your life savings into this, you’ll wind up with a mansion. You’d want something pretty damn solid before throwing your lot in with them. A slight biblical joke btw. “Throw in your lot with us; let us all share one purse”—
Any way.
It helps when someones not being so damn condescending. Of course Christians will reject what anyone has to say if it comes from a position of mockery.
Not convinced. This seems more like a an opinion based article. Besides why does it mater if people believe in the LORD.
It doesn’t matter whether you interpret the Hebrew word of “heavens” as in atmosphere or the spiritual “heaven”, it just doesn’t work. If it’s an atmosphere, there’s no way in physics that such a structure could have been made when even our 2020 global knowledge of architecture, tooling, materials, resourcing, project management etc can at BEST reach only 1km high. It also makes no sense since there likely would have been people walking around the Himalayas at a much higher altitude. If you interpret it as spiritual heavens then the other passages makes no sense. Our current knowledge of physics and chemistry has basically proven that this story is nonsense and that these arbitrary collections of books collated by a group of people, then added to by some group of people and then later split into two by some English king, cannot be relied upon.
Refuting the Tower of Bable story, somehow makes us evil!!!
This isn’t theologically or historically sound 🙈 the Bible is not in chronological order, and the Bible is about different culture that behaved differently. We cannot put our cultural and locational bias on a historical book to give it sense. We have to study the background of it and understand it within its own context…and you have to read the Bible as a whole to gain full context, but also study other writings from the same timeline to see the style of writing they’re using.
Why call yourselves The Church of Truth when your knowledge is limited? Why are you so sure that you are telling the truth? Do not lean on your own understanding! The link may help you:
https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/the-order-of-nations/
Some explanation the above link:
Quote:
After the descendants of each of the sons of Noah are mentioned, the text says that they were dispersed “according to their families, according to their languages” (Genesis 10:5, 20, 31). So, if Noah and his sons all spoke the same language, where did all of these other languages come from? Genesis 11 gives us the answer.
These groups of people did not willingly and obediently separate to fill the earth. Rather, we learn in Genesis 11:1–9 why these families separated from each other and how it came to be that there were so many languages in the world.
There is no contradiction here; Moses merely put the effect before the cause. Genesis 10 gives an overview, and then Genesis 11 fills in the details. You often find the same technique in other history books. One chapter might contain an overview of World War I—along with a list of major events. But the very next chapter might detail what the world was like in the years before the war and what events led up to it.
Unquote.
8 of 8:
This is a common example of “biblical literary art.”
4 other quick examples throughout the Bible:
1- Genesis 41:57 (NIV): “All of the countries came to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was so severe in all of the world.”
2- 1 Kings 10:24 (NIV): “The whole world sought an audience with Solomon to hear the wisdom God had put in his heart.”
3- Romans 1:8 (NIV): “Your faith is being reported all over the world.”
4- Colossians 1:6 (NIV): All over the world the gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you.”
Objection #7 of 8……
This is an extremely weak objection.
Throughout the Bible…. both in the Old Testament and New Testament….. The Bible refers to 3 different “heavens.”
The 3 “heavens”-
The atmosphere
The universe (space)
The Spiritual Heaven
The “heaven” reference in this verse- is simply the atmosphere.
When I say “I’m so high I can touch the sky after some good weed…… I obviously do not believe I can touch God (well, who knows- maybe the weed is that good).
So now you are saying that God was afraid they would reach the top of the atmosphere where they would have even way less oxygen and freeze to death (all confirmed by science)? Are you saying God doesn’t know this (not omniscient)?
Objection 6 of 8-
Genesis 11:7-
“Confound their language.”
You are mistaken- God did this so the people could not build the tower (a lack of communication would force the people to abandon their project).
God did not move the people (“scatter”) until Genesis 11:8 and Genesis 11:9. It is not said how He did it.
But, obviously, forcing them to speak different languages was a nice start.
If I was in a foreign place/foreign country, I would flock to the people who also spoke English.
You conveniently leave out the fact that the Bible states there were more than 1 languages before this passage. What you fail to realize is that the Bible is not divine and explains a lot of the errors found. If you respond by saying “well they didn’t translate it correctly” then by default you cannot trust the Bible as a whole and cannot be certain of what is true and what is fiction.
Does this really make sense, to you?
These people did not know that they were doing wrong, in which they weren’t! Adam & Eve, didn’t know they were doing wrong! Remember, God didn’t want them to have the knowledge of good & evil!
Objection #5 of 8-
“Us”
There are 2 options to this-
Either
1- The “Us” is a reference to the Trinity (The Father/The Son/and The Holy Spirit). These terminology is also used in Genesis 1:26 and Genesis 3:22.
or
2- God is speaking to His angels….. as he utilized His angels of many occasions throughout the Old Testament.
Objection #4/8-
Genesis 11:5
If you are familiar with the Bible, you would understand that it contains a TON of:
1- Poetry
2- Allegory
3- Parables
4- Sarcasm
This verse was meant to be sarcastic.
The language was meant to emphasize how bad of an idea the people had (as in, God was “playing along” with the people- as a parent often does with their child, or a teacher with his or her student).
If you read Genesis 3:8-10, God did the same thing with Adam in the Garden.
Objection #3/8-
This has nothing to do with God “being afraid” of finite human beings (His creation). It is shown throughout the Bible, and pretty clear that He pretty much does whatever the hell He wants, when He wants, how He wants.
Your objection actually shows why He is all-knowing/all-powerful- He understood exactly what would have happened in the near future if they would have kept that up (plus they were breaking their “contract” with God as well).
He was actually looking out for humanity- as a parent does to their child when he or she is about to screw up.
Have you ever heard the phrase “Absolute power corrupts absolutely?” That is about as close as it gets here.
Finally, if you are familiar with the New Testament- this is very, very close/similar to the spirit of the Antichrist (a single government/power). Just imagine if we had that today, in 2019. Yeah, it might be good if the citizens of the US were running the show, but just imagine how citizens of other countries would feel.
Regardless, man (even back then) was and is finite. God is infinite. There’s no comparison.
So now you are saying that they had no “free will” because he needed to intervene with their lives. So why doesn’t God reveal himself to us so that it is clear that he exists? It would be easier than flooding the whole world.
Notice, the Bible says that no knew that the flood was coming except Noah and his family!
Matthew 24:29! The other people on the earth at the time had to be relatives of Noah, also!
The Flood was a failure, since the only righteous people on the earth was Noah and his family and we still have sin, to this day!
What you have commented, is nothing more than pure conjecture!
Objection #2/8:
#1- Abydenus, a Greek historian from the 4th century BC, spoke of a large tower at Babylon that was destroyed.
#2- Plato, the genius himself, even spoke about a time when men spoke the same language.
#3- The Jewish historian, Josephus, also quoted an ancient source-
“Men speaking the same language”
“Men building a tower”
“The wind overthrowing the tower”
“The town/place was called “Babylon.”
#4- The identification of Babylon, with Shinar, was referenced a long, long time ago.
#5- These type of towers were known as “ziggurats,” and were actually pretty common during that time period. They were built with several platforms, one on top of each other- smaller and smaller to the top.
#6- Some historians even say the tower ruins at Borsippa (known as the “Tongue Tower,” along with “Etemen-an-ki” or “the temple of the foundation of heaven and earth” is located by the Euphrates. These are 2 common options.
Objection #1/8-
-Genesis 10 (10:5, 10:20, and 10:31) lists the different nations that arrived from the sons of Noah.
-In Genesis 11- it says the Earth only had “1 language.”
-The answer:
These events were not listed in chronological order.
-Genesis 10 is often referred to as the “Table of Nations.” (Where the groups settled.
-Genesis 10:32- where the nations went after the Flood (a major, “worldwide” flood- but not global).
-In Genesis 11:1-9- it shows why the groups were separated from one another- and how the different languages came about.
-Genesis 10 was an overview, Genesis 11 were the details.
-An example:
A book on World War II:
Chapter 10 being the overview of the war to help the reader understand the overall perspective.
Chapter 11 goes back and fills in the details.
Some of our favorite movies/tv shows uses this technique (Breaking Bad pops up in my head 1st).
Even as a little girl in Sunday school I understood that THAT was not how language worked, and that the very notion that God got upset and punished humans was because they were working TOGETHER (arnt we supposed to be doing that?) is just, not only idiotic, but contradictory to the highest degree possible.
These highly advanced people had realized that we live in an enclosed prison(fermenant) and we’re angered by their imprisonment, and wanted to confront the god race that put them there, and the god race that watched them(the watchers) saw this and needed to put a stop to this permanently, and it was decided the only way to stop this was to disperse these highly advanced people and confuse the languages and take the knowledge and technology they once possessed, in hopes they could never realize the monitored experiment they were living in like lab rats…..
Anybody who does this to another species (even if they are rats) deserves no better.
I thought those three boys of Noah were brothers? How come we would think they didn’t communicate with each other? Did their speech change when the Ark landed? The most people could say is that their was different dialects; this is common today in for example: Spanish speaking individuals have their own tongue (dialects) but can understand Spanish none the less. Also, the Bantu which is over 300 different tribes in Africa. No contradictions in the bible; just non-believers that are not full of the spirit trying to look for flaws in the book. I suggest that you grab hold of a relationship with Christ Jesus and allow His Holy Spirit to interpret to you His divine Word. #BeEncouraged
The letter J was not created until 1521. The name Jesus was not created until 1629. There was Jesus born in 4 BCE. There is no Jesus.
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“LORD” ≠ “GOD”
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I disagree and here’s why. The earth may have been split into tongues and nations before the flood, but not after. Nimrod building the tower of Babel came after the flood. God knows He is omnipotent, that’s not the point, the word Babel actually translates to gate of heaven. Nimrod was the son of Cush and Cushs wife was of nephilim blood which made him of nephilim blood. He had technology far beyond our comprehension at that time and that being said he was trying to build a stargate Into Heaven. His goal was to kill God for destroying his ancestors with the flood. God saw that anything imagined unto them was possible because of them being In one language, with one goal and yes if he hadn’t stopped them they would have been able to finish the stargate. The instructions or blueprints no longer made sense to all those working on it. Scholars say that nimrod is also Gilgamesh the one and the same and was believed to have been buried with the instructions to the stargate but communicating simple mime things like food drink, bathroom, that may have been easy but try getting a group of people to understand and build something that they can’t read the instructions to. Ever bought something and the instructions only came in Chinese or Japanese? God confounded their language to keep them from entering into heaven. He knew they could not destroy him but he also didn’t want them to get close to him either. He didn’t kill them, he still spared their lives. I have learned so much by reading and researching this very event. The Bible IS Holy and Sacred and 100 percent True. Even other religions speak of the events that happen in the bible just from different points of views. PS. Gilgameshs tomb has been found, but why is it so top secret?
What am I missing here? You say Cush’s wife was of Nephilim blood. How can that be if all but Noah and his family were killed in the flood? Everyone on the earth including Cush’s wife would have been decendents of Noah and his wife.
God confounded their language to keep them from entering into heaven? If God had not confused their language they actually would have been able to finish the stargate and get to heaven? How did you determine that Nimrod had technology far beyond our comprehension? His technology must have been vastly superior to anything we have now if he could make it to heavens gate.
Give me a break.
Sorry, no nephilim ever existed. You know, Jesus said theat when humans go to Heaven, they will be like angels, no marriage, no sex. No nephilim. Only in fantasy literature.
There are also 2 stories of creation in Genesis. And the 3 wise men didn’t see Jesus as a baby. In Matthew it says they saw a young child, so he was probably a toddler. And how come if the Bible is God’s word, and his word says he knows absolutely everything, and that we can only accept him because he accepted us first, then where is there room to not say God doesn’t hate gays. Also with the garden, why would God care if we have knowledge. Perhaps it’s the church not wanting us to be so smart so we can be dominated by those with agenda. If Adam and Eve are the first people, then who did Cain marry, since no one else was supposed to exist. I’ve also prayed for the last 30 years to be healed from my screwed up back, no healing has come. It’s only gotten worse, and I now have the gift of migraines to go with it the last 4-5 yrs. And if we are not to remove words from what God said, then how come Jehovah’s whiteness, as well as those that make the NIV version are still doing well. They both have removed some of God’s word. If only one way is the right way to God, then why do other faiths that pray get same results of each other. Many questions that lead to one conclusion. Religion is a lie.
This without a doubt was written by a demon. God has his plans for man and was not afraid. He knew that such a move would bring forth something that Satan was trying to make to stop the Messiah from coming when the LORD had plans for his people and Moses, David, and so many others and the emergence of Jesus Christ who would come to redeem man. It is believed they were dealing with incredible technology in those days and if you read the Book Of Jasher which the Bible references you would see the full story of the Tower Of Babel. They had the time to bring everyone of one language. Genesis 10 comes before Genesis 11. Solomon said what has been will be again and there is no new thing under the sun. So they were dealing with supernatural forces to even come up with the technology to build such a tower and be of one speech.
May I ask, if it’s God’s will for people on Earth to come together and live in peace, why did he mix up their language in the first place? He could have very easily just destroyed the tower and moved them elsewhere (Like how he did at the end of the fable) Plus, (given the context of the WHOLE Bible) God WANTS us to be with him in heaven, so why destroy what man had worked so hard to build so they could be with him?
Demons? Get real…. OK, I admit, yesterday I had tea with a unicorn…
Until you except that the Father,Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one God you will never understand the Word of God.
~Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Genesis 1:26-27 NASB)
According to the Bible, mankind is distinct from all the rest of creation, including the animals, in that he is made in the image of God. As God is a tripartite — Father, Son and Holy Spirit — so man is three parts — body, soul and spirit. In the most explicit example from Scripture of these divisions, the Apostle Paul writes:
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thessalonians 5:23 NASB).
Man is made up of physical material, the body, that can be seen and touched. But he is also made up of immaterial aspects, which are intangible — this includes the soul, spirit, intellect, will, emotions, conscience, and so forth. These immaterial characteristics exist beyond the physical lifespan of the human body and are therefore eternal.
These immaterial aspects — the spirit, soul, heart, conscience, mind and emotions — make up the whole personality. The Bible makes it clear that the soul and spirit are the primary immaterial aspects of humanity, while the body is the physical container that holds them on this earth.
The Body (Greek, “soma”)
This is the entire material or physical structure of a human being — it is the physical part of a person.
The Apostle Paul, writing to the Romans again connects the body, the mind (soul) and the spirit.
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect (Romans 12:1-2 NASB).
For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body (1 Cor. 6:20).
The Soul (Greek, “psyche”)
Genesis 2:7 states that Man was created as a “living soul.” The soul consists of the mind (which includes the conscience), the will and the emotions. The soul and the spirit are mysteriously tied together and make up what the Scriptures call the “heart.”
The writer of Proverbs declares, ” Watch over your heart with all diligence, for from it flow the springs of life.” (Prov. 4:23 NASB). We see here that the “heart” is central to our emotions and will.
But a natural (psuchikos — soulish) man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised (1 Cor. 2:14 NASB).
Paul, looking intently at the Council, said, “Brethren, I have lived my life with a perfectly good conscience before God up to this day” (Acts 23:1 NASB).
The Spirit (Greek ” Pneuma”)
In Numbers 16:22, Moses and Aaron, “…fell upon their faces and said, ‘O God, God of the spirits of all flesh, when one man sins, will you be angry with the entire congregation?'” This verse names God as the God of the spirits that are possessed by all humanity. Notice also that it mentions the flesh (body) of all mankind, connecting it with the spirit.
Another key verse that describes the separation between soul and spirit is Hebrews 4:12:
For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart (Heb. 4:12 NASB).
We see in this passage of Scripture that the soul and spirit can be divided — and that it is the Word of God that pierces our heart to bring the division of soul and spirit, something that only God can do.
As human beings, we live eternally as a spirit, we have a soul, and we dwell in a body. We can rejoice with the Psalmist and declare,
For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well (Ps. 139:13-14 NASB).
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Christine – nothing you said above refutes the truth – that the tower of Babel story is just that; a story.
And, by the way, there is no god. I know that for a fact. You have only “faith”, no evidence whatsoever.
I guess that means, you!
Many of the statements made by writers of the Bible are just opinions not based on facts or reality.
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Rom 8:26
We Know Not What We Pray For !
So This Why We Need God Holy Spirit To Intercedes For Us!
James 4:3
We Don’t Get What We Pray For Because We Pray And Ask For The Wrong Motived!
James 1:5,6,7,8
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It’s Always For Our Good ! Thank You And God bless
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That No One Should Ad Or Take Away From The Word Of God If They Do There Is A Consenqunce For Thier Action!
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It Let Us Know That Heaven And Earthwill Pass Away Before God Word Will !
Jhon 17:17 Say God Word Is True !
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Speak wisdom And Getting Understading !
2 Corinthians 3:6
Let Us Know The Letter Kill But The Spirit Of God. ( The Holy Spirit ) Give Life !
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We Adknowledge. God In All Our Ways !
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The Holy Spirit Will Teach Us All Things , whom The Father Will Send Us , (The Belivers )
And Bring Every thing We Need To Our Remenberance !
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It’s How We Interpret The Bible !
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Well said thank you my brother in Christ
Actually the bible has lots of contradictory statements such as when Cain killed able he was sent to another city nd marked so no one else who sees him will kill him how would their b other people if Adam and eve was the only people on earth and only had 2 sons nd 1 was killed by the other so wouldn’t that put the population at 3 ppl furthermore isn’t envy a deadly sin so in the ten commandments first thing said Is for god is a jealous god and there should have no other god b4 me clarifying that their r multiple gods or deities nd if god is without sin he harbors one of the 7 deadly sin which is envy cause jealousy and envy is the same just saying and is nothing is supposed to b added or taken away from the bible y did the monks who wrote the translation of the bible decided to leave out other scrolls and manuscripts and constructed the bible into Wat it was and Wat it has became any biblical scholar would attest to Wat I said
Hey E. B. William, I may be a Christian but I don’t believe blindly. Your type- Christian or not has always been the bane of this world… Look around you..There is nothing holy or benevolent about the bible or any other religion for that matter. Read the Bible- You will find a blood thirsty, ego centric, meat loving, narcissist, highly faulty, ignorant and rampart creature that goes about manipulating a small group of folk and mercilessly killing people down to infants. A highly imperfect voracious character who has nothing- I repeat nothing that passes muster in terms of divinity.
Moses, Christ etc were great people leaders in a way who played pivotal role in etching out a course for oppressed folk. Well, people won’t listen or follow you until there’s something fancy.
Truthsayer is absolutely correct. THis portal is absolutely correct- unbiased logic.
Well, most so called believers need something to believe in- no matter what it is. The truth hurts them and thus they defer from it.
Please don’t insult My God, the Bible is never wrong, Everything In it Is correct
No. The bible is wrong.
The Bible is never wrong? What planet are you living on? How do you explain the two different stories about how different languages began? One of them has to be wrong.
How did I “insult” your God? I merely pointed out the ridiculousness of the story.
And please don’t insult me by saying that I am wrong about what appears in this website. Everything in it is correct.
E. B. William,
Thank you for providing a falsifiable assertion. If I can find just one thing in the bible that is incorrect, then you have to give up your believe in the Bible since it has been shown to be incorrect – right?
OK… here it is:
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. .Matthew 21:22
That’s pretty clear. Unequivocal. No wiggle room WHATSOEVER ye shall ask in prayer, believing, YE SHALL RECEIVE.
Now, you know that does not happen. People do not receive whatsoever they pray for every time they pray.
There’s your incorrect bible verse. Prove me wrong.
If any god exists he/it/she is not yours. No god belongs to you. There are no gods. Even if there was a god and it was the god described in the Old Testament any decent, moral human being would want to insult him, he is not worthy of praise. If you claim every single word in the Bible is true you must be uneducated, have a neurological disease or have a psychological illness. Every word in the Bible cannot be true. Even if you ignore where the laws of the universe are apparently broken or suspended you are left with the contradictions. I have yet to hear/read a sensible explanation from any Christian that can properly account for a contradiction. One only has to read other comments here to see people clutching at straws by claiming that comments like mine have to be the work of another non-existent, supernatural being – the devil. If it was not so dangerous it would be funny.
Be careful, they’ll burn you :O
The Universe and the Most High Creator of all things is never wrong, But to say the Bible is never wrong can not be true. For one it is man’s translation, Second the Counsel of Nicea decided what would go into the Bible not God. The stories portrayed in the Bible were not written by actually witnesses and was written hundreds of years after the characters were supposed to have walked the earth. How do you explain the similarities from the Bible and the hieroglyphs written in the pyramids thousands of years before a bible existed. Therefore the bible is only a piece of a bigger picture. That is why you must “Study for yourself to show yourself approved” What factual evidence do you have to prove the Bible is 100% truth??? I was a church goer until I found out about the agenda of the Roman Catholic Church. Do you know how much they control the “Church” did you know “Jesus” is not the son of God’s true name. Why was that changed and any of the names if the bible is never wrong. Just research you facts and don’t just listen to the preacher every week. Ask the ultimate Creator to reveal the Truth to you.
Insult? How can you insult someone who kills babies? Or do you do that, too?
Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days–and also afterward–when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown
Genesis 11:8
So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. Then you would have know who Nimrod was ands what does Babel mean in Hebrew. Then you would understand the story.
What about the “free will” implications? Isn’t God thwarting the “free will” of man? Why didn’t he thwart Eve’s free will when the serpent was convincing her to eat the fruit?
Why did this cause him to act and that did not? Which ultimately was worse?
This is one of the most confounding stories in the Bible.
Yes, they conveniently leave out the fact that God is violating “free will” in this story, but when asked why God doesn’t reveal himself to everybody to make his existence obvious, they will bring up the “free will” argument. How pathetic and stupid. I hope they all realize their stupidity.
I agree with all you written about on the story of babel. The bible is a great read. But has to many contradictions and mis read interpretations. Basically it not a bad fiction meets philosophy book. But in most of its stories it can’t be taking to seriously. Constatine the true gatherer of the bible only used it to bring his empire together. That’s how it all started organize religion and their impending downfall.
I must say though that by what I was taught in Bible study years ago, that God knew they couldn’t build a tower up to Heaven, but it was that Nimrod started a uprising of disbelief& not needing God& to be like God’s without one& God was stopping their ignorance& prideful boasting. Thing is back then they though heaven was up, probably pass what the eye can see but God would reside maybe in another dimension. Spiritual realm or something. When I was a child, I used to say what If God just doesn’t look at us the way we would hope for& made earth, us, universe & continued on into other universes, galaxies. Maybe we are as important as ants are as we don’t watch where we step. Maybe a God concept would be beyond human comprehension. The thing is many say how can the universe be in such order like the sun& moon are perfectly away from us without over heating or freezing us. Although they talk about global warming, heat waves, solar flares & Possibly new ice age etc…lol so many scientists are in debates like Different religious sects are.
What you were taught in bible study years ago is not what the bible says. How can you ignore all the problems with the story that I point out? If, all of the sudden, you were unable to understand what your friends were saying, would you run off and start a new city? Or would you use pointing, gestures, grunts, facial grimaces, etc to communicate? The last thing you would do is go off to be alone.
Same with the four or five people (the story is set 3 generations after Noah!) who were allegedly building the tower of babble. They would have stuck together, not dispersed.
Re: “… universe in such order ….? Learn something about astrophysics and you will have your answer to how the universe has such order. It has nothing to do with a god.