How can people of “faith” continue to believe when there is incontrovertible evidence that what they believe is wrong?
The Church of Truth has presented facts that contradict the contents of the Bible and the Koran.
Why do people of faith accept the writings of four or five men who were so ignorant that they thought the sun revolved around the earth …. and deny the collected research of over 1 million truly learned men and women who can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the universe and the solar system and the earth are a result of the big bang that occurred over 13 billion years ago?
Why do they believe what 20 -30 stupendously ignorant, superstitious men wrote 3500 – 2000 years ago and not believe what 100s of thousands of very learned men have written in the last 100 years?
I was recently told today that Ezekiel proves today’s evil, I asked how & show me the verse. I haven’t received it yet but I was told Prophecies in the Bible are coming true & some already have been done & if it’s prophesied then it will come true. Then I’m told the evil ones want me to not believe & want people like me blind to the reality.
There are so many prophecies in the Bible that have indeed come true but before getting caught up reading those, the following pdf is a free download. Hear what former atheist/agnostic, Kirsten Powers, had to say about her new discovery in Jesus!
After reading this and more from the Bible, read the prophecies… They are amazing!!
ECCLESIASTES 12:12 (AMP) |IN CONTEXT | WHOLE CHAPTER
12 But about going further [than the words given by one Shepherd], my son, be warned. Of making many books there is no end [so do not believe everything you read], and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
King James Bible Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
I just wanted to show that the 1st quote is to scare people & now books afterwards are to be weary about based on the scripture. The 2nd one is in question on y have a Devil concept i3f God creates evil? You can say God allows it because of freewill or he created the devil &; that’s the evil but it doesn’t say that. Plus you can’t have blame go to God, devil & people. No wonder there’s confusion. Lol
The problem is those who go beyond to find truth are labeled as deceived. The devil tricked us or we looking for reasons not to believe, when actually I’m looking to believe but not on blind faith. My rationality says that God is more than just a hope. Also can’t know with assuming. It’s called assuming not knowing. Some believers won’t let u even try to decipher a metaphorical statement. I’ve got, “u weren’t chosen, they were. Judged by fruits to know, if it’s against the word then it’s not of God” etc…then I’m ridiculed ” u saying 40 men were wrong?” It’s like I can never be the victim not that I care to lol. Then I’m told “people died for all that, why preserve writings if not true?” I remind that the early church burned nonbelievers & Anything else of teachings was heresy. Even if u don’t believe in the devil u can supposedly still worship him if u don’t agree, follow The Bible. I ask this: If a father loves a child no matter what & the child doesn’t believe the same then u would still keep your arm over the child to show u care, accepting the child as another, as of u, from u, apart of u & u would always welcome the child home. So y would God’s love be any less for the ones who are supposedly lost? I find it hard to believe God would say “u had a chance to know but didn’t know me & now u know of me as proof & u didn’t believe in me so y should I believe in you, away with u forever.” So God’s love is unconditional& beyond ours so I can’t see any less of the expressions that we ponder. Many will say “he’s just too & righteousness,has a wrath,God can do as he wants, who are we to question? ” so it goes on & On with egotistical opinionated statements.
Yes – I hear them all the time and consider the source. Paul? John? Who are they to be giving out wisdom? Paul thought the end times would come in his lifetime. Wrong. John was a senile, doddering, toothless (I suppose) old fart. Anyway, John wasn’t written by John, the alleged apostle of Jesus. The book of John was written by a committee in the second century so they had time to come up with some pithy but worthless platitudes.
So would u say it’s all political agenda? Revenue tactics etc?
Why do Muslims believe Jesus (Isa) was just a prophet? I know they think God wouldn’t put self in human flesh but I mean why do they think their right too? They say Jesus was fabricated too & I’m just wondering how they can think they are more accurate than other sects?
I’m not trying to disprove any facts but I just want more clarity. What about the dead sea scrolls? The 11 caves had mixed of old testament& new & is supposedly the oldest records we have of any of Biblical stuff. Some dates are 30 AD or something maybe I read it wrong but it was 60 & below for some new testament. I’m not sure though I’m just curious.
I started by asking why God is taught as Black & White in a colorful world& shouldn’t be limited to any man. I guess you can say I played devils advocate & I don’t like open end questions with no legit answer so I kept studying. Things didn’t make sense like a baby goes to heaven if dies because of innocence, yet supposedly sin is passed through blood line & I’ve always disagreed a new born having sin. Then I Said a baby has it easier then because they go to heaven with a free pass for not knowing, not accepting Jesus with no choice. Which I then asked myself what if didn’t understand then God would know didn’t understand & know ones heart so if I’m trying I could go to heaven. Stuff like that. I proposed questions people couldn’t answer. I got tired of people to cherry pick verses so even when I fb posted Moses Laws I was asked y & I said in case people didn’t know& no one else will post. I always was the type to battle with using a negative. I view the negatives 1st so later it’s not as much of a shock value. I was told that can scare people away & atheist do that. I then said yea but somethings scare people to The Bible also so it works both ways. Like no salvation if don’t believe & Jesus is the only way to the father. Some who aren’t Christian say he meant his consciousness. I still have an open mind for both sides to see things I may not if close my mind on one side.
I mentioned Demon possessions because I’m skeptical on alot of this too.I’ve seen some vids that are clearly fake. Thing is my Girl who’s not Caucasian like me used to go to a Spanish church where they believe strongly in the holy ghost & they fall to floor twitching at times. When the pastor touches them & pray. I’ve heard of other strange stuff but part of it I think just relies on believing which gives a fainting feel. Kinda like a panic attack or something. Anyway so I wanted to inform u I have been called Judas (Traitor)& doubting Thomas by Some. I have yet to be called Saul who later becomes The apostle paul.
Lol well I don’t blame u for not knowing who they are. They are singers, pop icons etc…I just figured the more you knew about the bull then you could have additional ammo to fire with. Even if I was Atheist which I have been called lately but I must say somethings are strange. Although it’s not hard to fulfill prophecies because if you live by a book you can do what it says will happen etc…sometimes I think higher authorities use for their scare tactics to push further agendas. I was to by a Devout Christian that why don’t I ask the question of what was the frauds motive to lie? Have u ever had one point of this scripture to you since your atheist?
New International Version
For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
1 Corinthians 1:20-21
Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
– verses like these usually are thrown at unbelievers, so was just wondering.
Hey I saw u replied finally. I didn’t say I wanted to go with the babble. I was just showing u what people use to prove themselves or get me to think. I respect both you & Christians. I’m on a search still. I was strong into Christianity at one point. I wanted to know more & get as close as possible to God so as I re-read between the lines I saw things I didn’t before, call it blind faith. I believe in something & I don’t think humans were meant to ever know what it is but I have no proof other than that science points to something turns into something. Even matter starts from something. The Big bang resembles Genesis which is my favorite to discuss & I have said y not a parrot instead of a serpent but I know the snake has many symbolic meanings. I see the Bible as allegory. I see there’s definitely wisdom but I don’t see it as the infallible word. Try telling other cultures that lol. Plus y does Muslims have it like Jesus didn’t say everything claimed to Christianity. I hope u answer my other questions on your blogs. I’ve read the exodus one before& many others. Not everything yet.
Hey what do u think about demons /satanism etc…because supposedly there’s many possessions that have been witnessed& other phenomena, paranormal activity. Also what do u think about when comes to celebrities, the reenactments of illuminati propaganda & Vatican church influences etc…like look at Lady Gaga & Beyonce & Jay-Z. Beyonce wore a Balphomet goat head ring. Jay-Z had a “Thou shall do as wilt” Shirt. They said their not part of Illuminati or Luciferian cults but their exposure says different. Maybe it’s just for sales, controversial hype idk…Jay-Z believes in a one true God but no particular religious sect & says what I have said “we are all looking at the same thing differently” but he further states religion separates claiming he’s about unity. Katie perry was a Devout Christian but now completely changed & this change has got a lot of attention. So of course people are saying it’s the Horus all seeing eye Illuminati, Vatican Church doing. ???
Simply put, there is no supernatural. “Possessions witnessed”? All fakery, nonsense, bullshit.
I don’t give a hoot about Lady Gaga, Beyonce, et. al. Who are they? Don’t answer that. I don’t care.
What I know is completely contained in this website.
Google Illuminati. Especially Vatican church connection. Celebrities connection to it etc…clearly some has to be fabricated because secret cults wouldn’t display like that. People are trying to use this to prove Satanists are behind religion to confuse people & lie about The Bible. You see now it’s Illuminati which started as the Masons movement to help the world & the history of it seems altered & now a band wagon propaganda scandal but it’s still weird of u look into it.
Hey please take a good look at this link. I’m being told it’s legit proof to say The Bible is solid as facts & reliable etc…
I did take a look and Oh My God…. you are using that Babble to support the bible as factual and reliable?
First of all look at who is publishing the website: The Always Be Ready Apologetic Ministry – certainly no bias there – right? I view it as “always be ready to make up whatever is necessary to explain away the fact that reality doesn’t support your belief”.
A part of their tag-line reads “…archaeologists have made thousands of discoveries over the past century that have verified hundreds of details in the Bible…”. Well, I agree with that. Not everything in the bible is wrong. Yes there was a Jerusalem, Romans, Egypt, etc. But none of the studies verify anything supernatural.
I then followed the link to “Is There Archaeological Evidence for the Exodus?” which is one of my favorite stories to debunk. The answer is no, there is no archaeological evidence for the Exodus. The author of that little piece resorts to supernatural (” First off, an army of any size is no match for God. You may recall what a lone angel did to 185,000 Assyrians in a single evening? (2 Kings 19:35)” to explain part of the Exodus. His credibility is totally shot if he believes that nonsense. He is using the Bible to prove the Bible! That’s the level of proof that apologists use.
Take a look at There Was No Exodus for proof that there was no Exodus.
Yea your right. I now know what I don’t believe. I always tell Christians(I used to be one) I don’t have to know what’s I believe, I know what I don’t believe. I know what’s not truth.
keep asking and seeking and the truth will be revealed to you when you have an open mind. Jesus loves you!