Paul Is Wrong About So Much, Why Do You Believe ANYTHING He Says?

Hmm, upon further review, 6/22/2015, this needs organizational improvement. However, no ideas need improvement as they are perfect.

The Truth Is…

Lee Strobel, in “The Case For Christ” refers to the “reliable, historical data” that supports the resurrection and uses verses found in Paul as the source of this “reliable, historical data”.  Actually, Jesus warns about a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”:

Three years after Jesus’ Ascension, Christians were waiting for Jesus’s return on clouds of glory which Jesus promised every eye would see from “eastern to western sky.” (Matthew 24:26-29.) Only the day or hour was unknown. At that point, Paul was breathing “murderous threats” on Christians. He was clearly a lost man. Paul then had a wilderness encounter outside Damascus with someone saying “I am Jesus whom you persecute” — the voice implying he was the Christ. (Acts 9:1-11). However, those with Paul “saw no one.” (Acts 9:7.)

What was Paul’s proof he was chosen by the true Jesus? Paul in Second Corinthians 12:12 said what proved his validity: “The things that mark an apostle—signs and wonders—were done among you with great perseverance.” Paul in Romans 15:19 likewise said: “Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.” The Greek roots for signs and wonders were “semeion” and “teraton.

But Jesus was repeatedly concerned about the “signs and wonders” prophets, especially those claiming to have met in the “wilderness” someone coming “in my name” saying in effect ‘I am Jesus’ — an imposter Jesus — whom Jesus tells us we know is false because not everyone on earth will have seen this imposter from “eastern to western sky” coming on clouds of glory. (Matthew 7:15-23, especially verse 22; Matthew 24:11 & 24, & 26-28; Revelation 1:7 “coming with clouds, and every eye will see him”.)

Jesus warns again of the false prophets in Mark 13:22. They “shall show signs and wonders to seduce, if possible, even the elect.”

The Greek words in each warning by Jesus about false prophets quoted above were “semeion” and “teraton” — the same words as what Paul claimed proved his validity. Jesus said the false prophets will be “ravening wolves” in “sheep’s clothing” (Matthew 7:15.) – that is “false prophets” who appear to be following the true Christ but follow a false Christ.3

Nothing Paul says is credible.

  1. Paul says that Jesus will return within his (Paul’s) lifetime. MAJOR Discrediting Event
  2. Paul teaches the opposite of what Matthew, Mark and Luke report Jesus taught. Major Discrediting Event
  3. Paul originates the “Jesus died for our sins” story based on a false premise
  4. Paul tells three different stories about seeing Jesus.
  5. Paul makes up doctrine to suit the occasion and justifies it with reference to Old Testament prophecy.
  6. Paul started the “blame the Jews” movement.

1.  Paul Says That Jesus Will Return Within His Lifetime

      • “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” — 1 Thessalonians 4:17
      • I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” — 1 Thessalonians 5:23
      • But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none.” — 1 Corinthians 7:29
      • That ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ. Philippians 1:10
      • For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?– 1 Thessalonians 2:19
      • I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:23
      • Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son…. Hebrews 1:2
      • But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Hebrews 9:26 Paul believed that Jesus’ resurrection marked the beginning of the end.
      • For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Hebrews 10:37
      • The Lord is at hand. Philippians 4:5

Of course, it did not happen as Paul promised his followers it would. This by itself, is sufficient to reject anything Paul says.

The really funny thing about this “end times” nonsense is that Jesus said the same thing!  Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew16:28. Of course, Paul did not know that Jesus had said this because the alleged words of Jesus were written by Matthew about 30 years AFTER Paul’s delusion.

2. Peter 3:8 Fails to Exonerate Paul

3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day

Unfortunately for the spin doctors, this phrase from 2Peter cannot be used to explain away the fact that Paul told his audience that Jesus would come in their lifetime.  “One day is with the Lord as a thousand years…” cannot be used because Paul didn’t define the coming as any number of days or years; he said “within your lifetime”. 2Peter 3:8 is irrelevant given the phrasing Paul used.

The author of 2 Peter is aware of the failed expectations of early believers. He knows that Jesus, who was supposed to come soon, didn’t come at all. Many had begun to ask, “Where is the promise of his coming?” So he makes up the “one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” He certainly didn’t hear it from Jesus because Jesus told HIS followers that He would return within THEIR lifetime!

The vast majority of modern biblical scholars have concluded Peter is not the author of 2 Peter, and consider the epistle pseudepigraphical. There is a wide range of disagreement as to when 2Peter was written. However it is the first New Testament book to treat other New Testament writings as scripture so obviously it was written after Paul shot himself in the foot.

The End did not come in Paul’s lifetime. What Paul taught was wrong.
Paul could not have actually had a “revelation of Jesus Christ”  since it is impossible for Jesus to be wrong. Therefore, Paul made up his story about “the End”. If Paul fabricated about this most important issue, there is  no reason to believe that he didn’t fabricate everything else he taught. Thus nothing out of his mouth can be taken to be the truth. It follows that everything he said was made up to suit the need of the moment.

2. Paul Preaches The Opposite of What Jesus Preached WRT Salvation

This issue of Paul’s teachings versus what the Gospels say Jesus taught is the source of much spinning among believers.  There are those that claim Paul’s Gospel of Grace supplants Jesus’ Gospel of Salvation, and they justify  ignoring Jesus’ words or regarding words in Matthew, Mark, Luke  attributed to Jesus as inauthentic. Thus we are not the first to point out that Paul and the Gospels are at odds.  Read these two tracts to learn how some of your fellow Christians view Paul and his heretical teachings.

Paul preaches that salvation is by faith alone except when he doesn’t (Romans 2:6, 2 Corinthians 5:10) All the more reason to ignore all of Paul’s prattle. He contradicts himself! The number of Paul’s prattles that contradict Jesus preaching far outnumber those that are the same as Jesus’. Paul contradicts Jesus at least 100 times throughout his ramblings. Here is a sampling of Paul’s teachings that are contrary to what Jesus taught.

      • I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2:21
      • A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:28
      • Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 5:1
      • A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ. Galatians 2:16
      • For by grace are ye saved through faith  Ephesians 2:8
      • Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved Acts 16:31
      • Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. Titus
      • Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved Acts 2:21
      • If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  Romans 10:9
      • Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? Corinthians 15:29
      • And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.  1 Timothy 2:14-15
      • For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. Romans 9:11
      • Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Titus 3:5
      • For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

Any doubt about what Paul believes with respect to the importance of the law? The law is obsolete, not necessary. In fact, Paul teaches that it is only by the “grace” or “election” of God, that man enters the Kingdom. This predates Luther by about 1400 years. Jesus, however, COMPLETELY contradicts Paul’s interpretation of the importance of the law with this:

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

Any questions on what Jesus thought about the importance of the law? Completely contradicts Paul doesn’t he?

Jesus  always preached to Jews that the way to salvation was to Believe/Have Faith in the Father and do 12 other things (see Salvation: According to Jesus) – none of which are “Believe that I will be crucified and resurrected three days later”.

3. Paul originates the “Jesus died for our sins” story based on a false premise

Paul is the one who introduces the concept of original sin and the “inheritance” of sin.

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.” Romans 5:12

That’s it. That one sentence is the source for John 3:16. There is no basis for Paul saying that. There is no theological rationale for it. It is one man’s hare-brained thought floating through his head at the time. Jesus NEVER said anything of the sort. He said many things contradictory to that thought though.

Of course Paul came up with the ultimate sacrifice (God sacrificing his only begotten (how did God beget Jesus?)) which topped all the other religions that only sacrificed animals.

So, while Paul invented a theology of atonement based on the offering of Jesus as a human sacrifice for sin, Jesus explicitly rejects this doctrine. The gospel according to Matthew twice, in Matt 9:13 and Matt 12:7, states that Jesus said: “I will have mercy, and not sacrifice” (KJV). More modern translations, such as the RSV and NIV, update the archaic meaning of the word “will” and translate Jesus’ statements in both verses as: “I desire mercy and not sacrifice”. This could not be a more explicit rejection of Paul’s later teaching.

4. Paul Tells Three Different Stories About Seeing Jesus

Version One

Acts 9:4-9

And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

Version Two

And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.
22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.
22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
22:10 And I said, What shall I do, LORD? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
22:11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
22:12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
22:13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
Third Version
26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Discrepancy Summary (In case you missed it)
Heard the voice, did not hear the voice; saw the light, did not see the light.
Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Acts 22:9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Stood speechless, all fell to the earth
9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me,
Had sight restored on road/had sight restored in Damascus
9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
22:11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

6. Paul makes up doctrine to suit the occasion and justifies it with reference to Old Testament prophecy.

Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.  Acts 26:22-23

PROBLEM: These verses claim that Moses and the prophets prophesied that Jesus would suffer and rise from the dead. But there are no such prophecies in the Old Testament.

But if Paul thought that’s what the Old Testament said, then he was predisposed to promote his lunacy.

Galatians 1:16-17
To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

“Neither went I up to Jerusalem…” Well, that explains why nothing Paul says corresponds to anything Mark, Matthew or Luke say. That’s why Paul is so far off base, he gets picked off. Much of what Paul says, he admits, comes from within his head. We must believe then that most of Paul’s prattle, he makes it up.

Including this: 1Cor

15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

 

5.Paul Originates the “Jesus Died For Our Sins” Story Based on A False Premise

 

5. Paul Originates the “Jesus Died For Our Sins” story based on a false premise.

(15:3-4) “That Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.” I Cor 15:3-4

In these verses of Corinthians, Paul claims that the scriptures prophesied that Jesus would suffer, die, and be resurrected from the dead. But where are the prophecies that are referred to here? Hosea 6:2 perhaps? But this verse refers to the people living at the time (hence “us”) and therefore cannot be fulfilled by the death and resurrection of Jesus.

There are no Old Testament prophesies that support Paul’s fantasy.

 

7. Paul started the whole “blame the Jews for the death of Jesus” doctrine.

Paul denounces the Jews in order to gain traction with the gentiles, the only ones who will listen to him.

For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men 1Thessalonians 214-15

This is opposite to Jesus preachings. Jesus preached only to the Jews, for the Jews and cared only that they love God, his father.

The things that Paul doesn’t say are also evidence that he is not credible.

Paul seems to have known relatively little about the historical Jesus. He does not mention Jesus’ place of birth, his parentage, or even when and where he lived. He does not refer to any of Jesus’ miracles; neither does he mention any of his parables.  Paul was a contemporary of Jesus and was very busy persecuting Christians. He obviously knew of Jesus and would have heard many things about him.

    1. Paul says nothing about the birth of Jesus.
      This is because Paul wrote BEFORE Matthew and Luke and the birth story had not yet been concocted. In an effort to prove Jesus was the son of God, the birth story would have been very good evidence. But Paul didn’t know of it.
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    2. Paul says nothing about the life of Jesus.
      Strange since Saul was persecuting those who followed Jesus.
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    3. Paul says nothing about the miracles of Jesus.
      During Paul’s Christian persecution phase, Paul would have heard of the…many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.” John 21:25 With all those things and miracles, surely Paul could have used those during his pep talks to the unconvinced. He used all kinds of other nonsense. He didn’t refer to the miracles because he didn’t know of them because they hadn’t been made up yet by Jesus’ wanna-be biographers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
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    4. MOST AMAZING: Paul says nothing about one of the most defining moments of Jesus’ life:
      The Transfiguration! God, Jesus, Moses, Elias, Peter, James, John! Never has there ever been a gathering of people like that  gathering. Yet what does Paul say about it to those he wishes to convert? Nothing.
    5. MOST AMAZING: Paul says nothing about the details of the death and resurrection of Jesus.
      There is no mention of Jesus’ trial, nor even of the place of the crucifixion or anything about the most important event, the resurrection. Paul only can repeat what he has heard – Jesus rose from death. That’s it. No details. Again, since the backstory of Jesus had yet to be written, Paul could not possibly have any “knowledge” of the details of his death.

Summary

Paul fabricated his blather out of his  knowledge of  Pharisaic Jewry and ancient myths.  It was not inspired by the teachings of Jesus; in fact He seems totally unaware of a historical “Jesus” – only a risen “Christ”. There is no evidence that what Paul wrote with respect to Christian doctrine has any grounding in fact.

This is probably not too surprising as Paul was writing before the gospels had been set down. He was operating in a vacuum, creating a new religion as his “inspiration von whole-cloth”  led him. He was a self-appointed apostle and spent considerable time and effort generating support for his interpretation of Jesus’ message.

Did Paul Really See Jesus?

No.

There are a number of known reasons that science has identified as the reason people see and hear things that aren’t:

      1. Hallucinations (see Power of Hallucinations)
      2. Mental Illness (mental institutions are filled with people who have visions)
      3. Wishful thinking begets a white lie that grows
      4. Intentional lie to attract attention
      5. Intentional lie to protect self
      6. Intentional lie to promote a cause, garner support
      7. Outright falsification that “justifies” the end (See Paul’s statement about willingness to lie)
      8. Epileptic seizure
      9. Staring at the sun
      10. Dementia
      11. Drugs
      12. Dreams
      13. Delusion
      14. Meditation
      15. Comas and Brain Damage
      16. Extreme exhaustion
      17. Sleep Deprivation
      18. Lack of oxygen to the brain for whatever reason (apnea, Near Death Experience)
      19. Schizophrenia
      20. Bi-Polar
      21. Diabetic
      22. Fugue state
      23. Dissociative identity disorder
      24. Bi Polar
      25. Space Aliens came down and impersonated Jesus
      26. Other – you name it.

What Did Paul Write?

Fourteen epistles in the New Testament are attributed to Paul. Seven of these – Romans, 1st Corinthians, 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1st Thessalonians and Philemon – are almost universally accepted as being actually written by Paul. Scholars generally agree that four others were not written by Paul, those being 1st Timothy, 2nd Timothy, Titus, and Hebrews. As to the remaining three – Ephesians, Colossians and 2nd Thessalonians – scholars are almost evenly divided. We, however will only consider those books that are known, without a doubt, to have been authored by Paul. Again, they are, in best-estimate, chronological order…

      • 1st Thessalonians – 51.2 CE
      • Galatians – 51.6 CE
      • 1st Corinthians  – 55.2 CE
      • 2nd Corinthians – 56.0 CE
      • Romans – 56.9 CE
      • Philippians – 59.8 CE
      • Philemon – 60.6 CE

The Word of God or the Word of Paul?

As Paul is presenting his version of Christianity to his followers he will often preface the thought by identifying it’s source; “this is from the Lord” or “This is from me… Paul”.

Here is Paul, giving credibility to his utterances by claiming that what he says is inspired by Jesus.

        • Paul acknowledges that he had no instruction from man; implying that everything he preaches is “received through a revelation of Jesus Christ. and is therefore to be regarded as truth from God/Jesus.

11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel.
12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
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15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
16 was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone.
Galatians 1:11-16

Later, we will see that utterances that Paul claims to have been inspired by the Lord are demonstrably wrong.

He reiterated one of the commandments and denigrated Gentiles.

That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
1Thessalonians 4:4-5

Do you know what “possess your vessel” means? It means your penis.

He was the first to come up with the idea of the second coming and the Rapture.

But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17

There it is! The source for the idea that Christ would return and take Christians to heaven with him. The concept of the rapture was not always a strong element of Christian dogma. It was first expressed by the 17th-century American Puritan father and son Increase and Cotton Mather. They held to the idea that believers would be caught up in the air, followed by judgments on the Earth, and then the millennium. The term rapture was used by Philip Doddridge (1738)] and John Gill (1748) in their New Testament commentaries, with the idea that believers would be caught up prior to judgment on the Earth and Jesus’ second coming. Read more HERE

MOST SIGNIFICANT INVENTION:


He made up the concept of salvation through belief in the resurrection; later to reappear in  John 3:16

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9
This is the first appearance of this idea.  This idea of salvation through faith does not even appear in Matthew, Mark or Luke. Only John, writing some 60+ years after the death of Jesus uses it in his gospel. This could not have been revealed to Paul by Jesus because it is the exact opposite of what Jesus taught.

He invented the doctrine of “Jesus died for my sins thereby making adherence to Jewish ‘law’ moot”

…yet we know that a person is justified not by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ.
And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we might be justified by faith in Christ,
and not by doing the works of the law, because no one will be justified by the works of the law.

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
If righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Galatians 2:20-21

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Galatians 3:11-13

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:24-26

PLEASE NOTE: Jesus taught the exact opposite of what Paul prattles about:
“Think ye I came to abolish the law?

No need to be circumcised; Thank you Paul!

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing
For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Galatians 5: 2-4

 

The most material benefit of Paul’s teaching was the opportunity for the Gentile convert to come into the family of believers without also having to accept the trappings of Judaism.

All Christian Doctrine Comes From Paul

The Truth Is…
Paul invented Christian Doctrine based on nothing but his imagination.
Paul traveled throughout the middle east preaching only about the final coming of Jesus SOON so therefore gentiles had better accept Jesus to save their souls. He actually started writing to his former audiences in order to correct their misconceptions and misdeeds some 20 years after the Death of Jesus.

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Here’s an example of something Paul makes up
Context: Paul had preached to the Thessalonians that Jesus would come in their lifetime. But since Paul’s departure, many of the Thessalonians had died and the deads’ loved ones were concerned for the soul of the departed. Paul soothed their concerns with the following:

For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. 1Thessalonians 4:16

Where does Paul get this?
Paul does not say that he learned this from Jesus or God… he just made it up to make the
Thessalonians feel good about their dead loved ones.

The Truth Probably Is…
Here is the most likely, and therefore truest, explaination of Saul’s conversion

The first Christians came to see Jesus as the messiah from their reading of passages in the Jewish scriptures that talk about one of God’s righteous ones suffering for the sins of others (cf. Isaiah 53; Psalm 22) These passages don’t explicitly refer to the messiah, but Christians claimed they did. Jews saw Jesus simply as a crucified criminal; to call Jesus the messiah was blasphemous. This was the reason Paul persecuted the Christians.

How Paul Came To His Delusion

Thirty years after Jesus crucifixion, Paul, deeply tormented by his own crucifixion of Christians has a “vision” in which he believes that he sees Jesus. He believes his vision to be true and now, knowing that Jesus is the son of God, has to reconcile Christ’s death. He no longer sees Jesus’s crucifixion as just the Romans using their standard M.O. to kill their no-goods, but now he reasoned, it must have been for a higher purpose.

Using his extensive knowledge of Jewish “law”, Paul rationalized thusly… Because Abraham was made “right with God” through faith (he actually believed God when God told him that Sara, his aged wife, would bear him many children) BEFORE he was circumcised, Paul reasoned that one could be made right with God by faith alone; no circumcision required.

He no longer saw Jesus as one who was cursed by God (in his crucifixion) but one who fulfilled God’s own purposes. He reasoned that Jesus’ death must have had a divine purpose and concluded that Jesus’ death was the way God deals with sin. Paul probably continued to keep Jewish Law, but came to believe that following the Law could not put a person in right standing before God; only Christ’s death could do that.

Paul also came to believe that, Jesus’ resurrection signified that the end of time was near. Paul believed, as did many Jews, that the end of time and the Last Judgment were near. He believed Jesus was raised from the dead as the “first fruit,” meaning that the celebration of the “harvest” (the end of time) had begun; Jesus would return to Earth in glory and this would happen in Paul’s own lifetime.

Once convinced of this, Paul began proclaiming his new faith in Jesus as the one whose death could restore people to a right standing before God. This can be seen above all in the story of Abraham, the “father of the Jews,” who was made right with God by faith, not by following the Law: Abraham was made right with God before he was given the Law about circumcision, meaning that circumcision is not necessary for a right standing with God. Paul uses this example to show that salvation comes not by Law but by having faith in the promise of God, which is fulfilled by Christ’s death. It brought a right relationship with God. Thus the death of Jesus was God’s sacrifice etc..

Furthermore, Paul lived in an age when apocolyptic beliefs were very prevalent. He himself believed the end of the earth was about to occur. Now, with the resurrection of Jesus from the dead was proof-positive that the end of the world was at hand and, having seen Jesus, “the son of God” thiry years after his death, Paul KNEW that the end had begun.

======================================================================== Effects of staring at the sun
* Dogma:

A religious doctrine that is proclaimed as true without proof.
A doctrine or code of beliefs accepted as authoritative.

** How Staring at the Sun Affects the Mind..  from “Mike M”:

At one time in my life when I was having a manic episode like a dumb ass I stared at the sun for quite some time. Maybe 2 – 3 minutes. During the mania, I assumed I had died and thought OK this is the light. But, my rational thinking was a little intact and I thought Okay this could permanently damage my vision if I am in fact alive. Well, I quit looking and I would say for the next 3 – 5 hours I saw a giant blue ball in my vision. After a bit, it faded to yellow.. (not sure if it was hours – because it happened in 2002).. But, many hours later that night.. My vision turned blurry. I’d say to this day, yes it probably damaged my eye.. I never told the eye doctor (because honestly it is embarrassing telling anyone you experienced an episode of craziness in your life.) Oh, for those curious the Sun was quite far above the horizon to the point I felt the burn on my skin. The part that upsets me most about my story is in my mind back then how I felt it was all so real. The delusional thinking was so strong that I really felt I had died. If you never experienced insanity like this .. The only thing I could compare it to was like living through a horror flick without a place to cover your eyes..

21 comments on “Paul Is Wrong About So Much, Why Do You Believe ANYTHING He Says?

  1. Geoff Graham says:

    Original sin is a fact ,with or without Paul,when you try to explain WHY babies die having not even had the chance to sin well thats an issue. Babies dying proves there is sin on people and we would still die even if we were sinless, the wages of SIN is death ,God himself wrong? No, so whatever is allowed to continue to kill babies hasn’t left yet. 2nd you fail to mention that Paul explained before the lord comes that antichrist needs to be revealed since this hadn’t happened he wasn’t 0thinking Christ would come at any moment .. Also have his language speaking of FUTURE CHRISTIAN READERS day to the lord is as a thousand years is stated because it is a fact not a cover up because PAUL knew he did not know when the return would be ,you are so busy looking and digging for why Paul is some wolf that you miss easily seeable points of why he says some things that you misunderstand the entire reason for saying! ,you cannot know the intent behind a person words if you do not have the understanding of the person saying the words ! what the precise thing in their head was meant . And absolutely cannot fins it judging one way! It’s also why you cannot use some 3 witnesses you need to person being charged to be ALIVE kinda the entire point! This for the commenter and for you if you agree with him . Since he doesn’t know if christ is coming in their life time a statement a prayer he hopes to remain pure sage or anything else til the coming of lord is fine ,There was no claim of knowing when christ comes ,there were already plenty if knowledge of christs trial he obviously knew other apostles Peter they are together no where did the apostles reject Paul he was known are you better than they are? Do u think they did not hear from his own mouth what he taught ?? They did! he corrected Peter for earning with the jew separating from the gentile .

  2. Gi Gi says:

    Just beginning to see Paul as an adversary figure, as a final test by YHUH Himself to see whose Words we (the outcast 10 lost tribes into the nations aka christians) would cling to. Since christianity doesnt teach much doctrine from the Tanak (OT), it would be easy to to slip in contrary doctrine upon an unsuspecting body of “believers”. Which begs the question…belief in what?? All christian doctrine does indeed come from Paul. He speaks a mixed message for sure, and thats what makes Paul so confusing when isolating most of His writings. For 2000 years we have not questioned one comma of what Paul introduced, and I believe it is time we implement the 2 or 3 witness rule and the Deuteronomy 13 test against all Paul said. Keeping in mind that this is not sacrilege and doing this exact thing is what true scripture instructs us to do, in order to guard against a false prophet or teacher deceiving the flock. Reminder to all reading this that the Tanak (OT) is the only recognized scripture that was referred to in the NT, whenever you see the phrase “it is written”, the NT was a compilation of messianic historic events and letters from Paul…and was NOT considered authoritative scripture by those that the NT was actually written about…not even Messiah!
    Here are 2 very powerful things I recently noticed in scripture that blew my mind. In Gal 5, Paul eloquently goes on about some very beautiful ideologies regarding brotherly love. Which concepts I agreed with. They He slips in a half truth, hoping we’d be swept away in the “love” message… and I never caught it because I didnt know what the Tanak (OT) taught all these years! Can you see it? Just like the serpent in the garden, he changed something ever so slightly and lead mankind down another path. He quotes the last 6 of the Ten Commandments and with subtlty, leaves out the 1st four..and then calls observing the last 6, The WHOLE of the Law. See if you can use the 2 or 3 witness rule to find a confirmation for THAT in The Tanak (OT)…you wont find a confirmation, but the exact opposite!
    Another thing I recently saw, which I dont quite know what to make of yet is the doctrine of Messiah being the sacrifice for the sin of all mankind. 1st, Messiah himself said “I came not but for the lost sheep of the house of Israel”….so He didnt come for any other people group. He came to restore the entire 12 tribes back into covenant with the Father. Knowing that the Northern Kingdom, also known as the 10 tribes or the lost 10 tribes (aka sheep), were indeed scattered into the nations (gentile pagan nations) of the world, may be just semantics here..not sure.
    The second part to the above statement is that sin sacrifices happened during Yom Kippor, not Passover. So I have to dig deeper into why this discrepancy in teaching exists and i believe we can find it in Pauls writings.
    We all must study to show ourselves approved and to prove all things. Shalom

    • Thomas Miller says:

      Once you start digging into Paul you are scratching a scab, one that is going to get you in trouble with the community. The community of Christians that demand to stay ignorant, the hard headed people who are willing to burn you at the stake, put you to the rack and cry for State run religion. Most would have been behind the The Edict of Thessalonica

      “On 27 February 380, divine punishment and imperial retribution were threatened for those who rejected the Nicene creed. Five years later Priscillian, Bishop of Avila, would be the first Christian to face judicial execution by other Christians for his beliefs. ”

      Ha-satan knows how to use his flock, to hide them in sheep’s clothing and all the while they think they are so pious.

      • Gi Gi says:

        I agree Thomas! Hoping that my statements above provoke those who desire to worship The Almighty in Spirit & in Truth through obedience to His instructions… into using their critical thinking skills and dig for themselves. It is crucial…wouldn’t you agree?

  3. Sam M says:

    Old Article, but it’s still doesn’t change the fact that it’s nonsense. You just showed that you don’t pray, read and soak in the Word. Not one verse did I read that Paul said that Jesus was coming in his lifetime. I didn’t even have to read the whole article to know it was pure nonsense. And then you have the audacity to say the ideas didn’t need to be edited because they were perfect. Nothing is perfect, including your so called “understanding” of the scriptures

    • Thomas Miller says:

      “Not one verse did I read that Paul said that Jesus was coming in his lifetime. ” Have you read the Bible? “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. ”

      You’ll note Paul’s use of the word “we” there in reference to the Christians who would be alive to experience the Rapture. That’s pretty conclusive evidence that he thought he would be in that group. He didn’t use the word “you” who are alive, no he included himself because he thought it would be soon.

      And there there is the teaching about the time being very short. “But let me say this, dear brothers and sisters: The time that remains is very short. ”

      It’s always comical how people defend Paul. Sometimes I’m not sure who they love more Paul or Jesus.

      • Sam M says:

        Just because he said we who are alive, doesn’t mean he said Jesus was coming in his time… stop grasping at straws here.

        Also, time is short. You’ll recall that the Bible says that 1 day is like a thousand years to God and vice versa. What we think our count as slowness is not that at all…

        It’s always comical how people try to find error in Paul’s teachings where there are none. It’s also comical how people who aren’t spiritual try to break down scripture written by a man who was spiritual and used greatly by God. Stop trying to understand with your own knowledge, and start asking the spirit for the gift of discernment.

      • Geoff says:

        “We” as in CHRISTIANS Believers .. not as in we in this small group .

  4. Just as Adam and Eve were tested with a temptation to disregard God’s law, and becoming their own gods (which is the nature result of rejecting YHVH God’s divine authority), so we too are being tested, in the exact same manner. But instead of the deceptive lies coming from the serpent beast, our deceptive lies are coming from Paul’s epistles.

    Paul’s Epistles and Jesus’ words are not compatible, so we all have to choose between their teachings. The early believers in Jesus (The Way) rejected Paul’s lawless teachings and continued to keep YHVH’s law and the Prophets and they worshiped YHVH alone. Later, the founders of the Christian religion chose to follow Paul whenever there was a discrepancy between Jesus’ words and Paul’s words, so they discarded the ‘law and the Prophets’ and that allowed them to later reject God’s Sabbath day and adopt the doctrine of the Trinity. Adam and Eve made the wrong choice when they chose to follow the lawless advice of the serpent beast over YHYH’s command. Please don’t make that same mistake. Only when YHVH is your supreme authority are you fit for His kingdom.

  5. eric says:

    2 peter 3:16 speaking of Paul – As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    what you are saying about Paul is from a lack of understanding law. When Paul says “works of the Law” he is not talking about the commandment. He is talking about the penalty of the law and he is correct because you cannot pay for your own sins and be justified. To understand this better you need to understand that all laws are written in pairs. You have the law telling you what to do and the penalty being a separate law. An example would be the speed limit. one law says you cant drive faster than 55mph. A second law defines the penalties for breaking the first law. I am “under” the first law the moment I get a drivers license and agree to obey the speed limit. I am not “under” the second law UNTIL I break the first law. Once I break the first law I am “under” the penalty (second law) until the debt is paid. We were all under the penalty for sin being death. Jesus paid the penalty for sin by dying. This did away with the penalty but did not take away our obligation to keep the commandments. This is why Paul says in Hebrews 10:26-29 For if we sin (transgress the law 1 john 3:4) willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

    Lets say I break the speed limit and go before a judge and he tells me the fine is $200. Then the judge comes down from his bench and pays the fine and tells me to go and speed no more. What will he do if he finds me before his court the next day for speeding? Dont earthly judges increase the penalty with each transgression? Hebrews 10:26-29 is telling us that God will do the same thing. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  6. Lynn says:

    Some characters in the Bible was misunderstanding gods word but that doesn’t mean the Bible lied. It means the Bible allowed their human flaws to be written about Learn.

  7. on the opposite, I love the one and True G-d. If Love does not triumph, what else can?

  8. Theo Cloete says:

    The following is 2nd century literature. Regardless of who the author/s were or who the main characters really depict, it is abundantly clear that there were major problems with and around the fabrications and false teachings of Paul:

    * 22.“The Clementine Apocrypha,” Anti-Nicene Fathers (ed. Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson; rev’d A. Cleveland Coxe) Vol. VIII (Pea- body, Mass.: Hendrickson Publishing Inc., 1994) at 269 et seq. This is available online at http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/anf08- 61.htm#P5206_1525700. These Clementine Homilies were part of church history since the 200s, and even were frequently official read- ings in the early church. They purported to be written by Clement, the bishop at Rome around 96 A.D. Scholars of today claim these letters were written around 200, and included within them the earlier tradition of the Ebionites, such as in this passage. Because they were not appar- ently written by Clement, in fact, they are now labelled The Pseudo Clementine Homilies.

    Preface to Clementine Homilies

    Letter of Peter to James:

    “For some among the Gentiles have rejected my lawful preaching and have preferrred a lawless and absurd doctrine of a man who is my enemy. And indeed some have attempted, while I am still alive to distort my word by inter- pretation of many sorts, as if I taught the dissolution of the Law … But that may God forbid! For to do such a thing means to act contrary to the Law of God which was made to Moses and was confirmed by our Lord in its everlasting continuance. For He said: ‘For heaven and earth will pass away, but not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the Law.’” Letter of Peter to James, 2.3-5 (pre-sumed 92 A.D.)

    Peter confronts Paul as per letter in Clementine Homilies: *

    If, then, our Jesus appeared to you in a vision, made Himself known to you, and spoke to you, it was as one who is enraged with an adversary; and this is the reason why it was through visions and dreams, or through revelations that were from without, that He spoke to you. But can any one be rendered fit for instruction through apparitions? And if you will say, ‘It is possible,’ then I ask, ‘Why did our teacher abide and discourse a whole year to those who were awake?’ And how are we to believe your word, when you tell us that He appeared to you? And how did He appear to you, when you entertain opinions contrary to His teaching? But if you were seen and taught by Him, and became His apostle for a single hour, pro- claim His utterances, interpret His sayings, love His apostles, contend not with me who companied with Him. For in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church, you now stand. If you were not opposed to me, you would not accuse me, and revile the truth proclaimed by me, in order that I may not be believed when I state what I myself have heard with my own ears from the Lord, as if I were evidently a person that was condemned and in bad repute. But if you say that I am condemned, you bring an accusation against God, who revealed the Christ to me, and you inveigh against Him who pro- nounced me blessed on account of the revelation. But if, indeed, you really wish to work in the cause of truth, learn first of all from us what we have learned from Him, and, becoming a disciple of the truth, become a fellow-worker with us. (Ps-Clementine Homilies 17,19)

    • would like to know how authentic of this writing was. if Peter did say such words to Paul, then Paul could be misled or guided by his own ego. even if so, as from many of his remaining letters, I still considered that he was ordained by the Lord. then, we shall not discredit him and/or his writings as if we are not ordained by the Lord directly. Order and respect to the ones whom G-d has chosen are much needed in order to bring a peace that can build all of us up.

    • Golanv Waya says:

      Who was Peter ? John tells you MOST PEOPLE are already following Destruction/Abaddon/Apollylon/The Devil and they do not even know it

      G623 Apollyōn active participle of G622 apóllymi
      Strong’s G684 – apōleia from apollymi G622
      The name Apollyōn comes from apollymi which means “I destroy.” So the Greek term has the same meaning as the Hebrew Abaddon
      Abaddon Meaning: Destructive One, Place Of Destruction
      Etymology From the verb אבד abad, to perish or to be destroyed

      The verb אבד ‘abad means to die, or rather to disintegrate: the falling apart of an organic or social (or even mental) body into independent elements. As such, our verb may even describe how domesticated animals (donkeys, sheep) escape the confines of their human settlement and take off into the unconnected wild (at their great peril).

      The derived noun אבד ‘ obed means destruction; the noun אבדה ‘ abeda denotes a lost item.
      http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Abaddon.html…

      Mat_7:13 Go in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to DESTRUCTION (G684) ( i.e. Apollyon or Abaddon) , and many are the ones entering in through it.

      Revelation 9:11 They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is DESTRUCTION (Abaddon), and in Greek he is called Apollyon (G623).

      JOHN TELLS YOU WHO ABADDON IS :
      Judas was Simon Peter’s Son AND Yahusha said the ONLY ONE HE LOST WAS DESTRUCTION’S SON ….
      John 17:12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN LOST EXCEPT THE SON OF DESTRUCTION, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

      Iscariot is simply a noun meaning “traitor” not a last name

      John 6:71 He spoke of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray him.
      John 13:2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him,
      John 13:26 Yahusha answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

      DURING THE LAST SUPPER DESTRUCTION OR THE DEVIL WAS THERE
      John 13:2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon’s son, to betray him,
      John 13:26 Yahusha answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

      The Messiah said he choose the Devil as one of his apostles
      John 6:70 יהושע answered them, “Have I not chosen you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil ?”

      PETER COULD NOT DENY YAHUSHA WITH OATHS AND CURSES WITHOUT DENYING THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE IT WAS IN YAHUSHA IN BODILY FORM

      Luke 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form, like a dove; and a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.”

      Matthew 26:69-75
      Disciples’ Literal New Testament (DLNT)

      Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard. And one servant-girl came to him, saying, “You also were with Yahusha the Galilean”. BUT THE ONE DENIED IT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, SAYING, “I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING”, “I do not know what you are saying”. And he having gone out to the gate, another saw him. And she says to the ones there, “This one was with Yahusha the Nazarene”. AND AGAIN HE DENIED IT WITH AN OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN”. And having come to him after a little while, the ones standing there said to Peter, “Truly you also are one of them, for even your speaking makes you evident”. Then HE BEGAN TO CURSE, AND TO SWEAR-WITH-AN-OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN.” And immediately a rooster crowed. And Peter remembered the word Yahusha had spoken— that “Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three-times”. AND HAVING GONE OUTSIDE, HE WEPT BITTERLY.

      Matthew 10:33 “Whoever DISOWNS ME before others, I WILL ALSO DENY BEFORE MY FATHER IN HEAVEN.”

      DISOWN OR DENY G533
      From G575 and G720; to deny utterly, that is, disown, abstain: – deny.

      Yahusha intentionally choose satan then handed him the keys
      Mar 3:23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house. 28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
      Mat 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
      Hos 10:10 When I desire, I shall bind them; and the peoples shall be gathered against them, when they bind themselves to their two perversities.

      The only person the son of man called satan was peter

      Matthew 16: 22-23
      And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying, “Far be it from you, Master! This shall never happen to you.” 23 But he turned and said to Peter, “GET BEHIND ME, SATAN G4567 ! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of Elohim, but ON THE THINGS OF MAN.”

      Mar_8:33 But turning and seeing his disciples, he rebuked Peter and said, “GET BEHIND ME, SATAN G4567 ! For you are not setting your mind on the things of ELOHIM, but on the things of man.”

      Mat_4:10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship YHVH your ELOHIM and him only shall you serve.’”

      1 John 2:22 [
      Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is THE ANTICHRIST, he who denies the Father and the Son.

      Matthew 26:69-75
      Disciples’ Literal New Testament (DLNT)

      Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard. And one servant-girl came to him, saying, “You also were with Yahusha the Galilean”. BUT THE ONE DENIED IT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, SAYING, “I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING”, “I do not know what you are saying”. And he having gone out to the gate, another saw him. And she says to the ones there, “This one was with Yahusha the Nazarene”. AND AGAIN HE DENIED IT WITH AN OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN”. And having come to him after a little while, the ones standing there said to Peter, “Truly you also are one of them, for even your speaking makes you evident”. Then HE BEGAN TO CURSE, AND TO SWEAR-WITH-AN-OATH THAT “I DO NOT KNOW THE MAN.” And immediately a rooster crowed. And Peter remembered the word Yahusha had spoken— that “Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three-times”. AND HAVING GONE OUTSIDE, HE WEPT BITTERLY.

      Matthew 10:33 “Whoever DISOWNS ME before others, I WILL ALSO DENY BEFORE MY FATHER IN HEAVEN.”

  9. Theo Cloete says:

    Thanks. I enjoyed that. You could add that Jesus/Yahusha warned that scoffers would claim to see him in the desert (Paul did) and the inner chambers (Paul did, twice).

  10. Lor Enzo says:

    correct at all good job i hate monotheism!

  11. Eyeconoclast says:

    This is a very nice summary of a complex topic. I’m sure you could choose a more formidable apologist to demolish than Lee Strobel – that guy is a third-rate hack!

    As you point out, Paul seems totally unaware of Jesus’ Earthly ministry. There are places where Paul could have buttressed his statement with a relevant Jesus quote but didn’t … because those quotes were fabricated by the Gospel (or Q) writers long after Paul wrote his crazy fairy tales. Richard Carrier has an interesting hypothesis that Paul didn’t think of Jesus as existing in the Earthly realm at all.

    You have a talent for summarizing a lot of diverse information in a very readable and engaging way. Some web widgets that allow you to expand and contract sections would allow a reader to quickly scan a long article (like this one) and expand sections as desired (or guided by the Holy Spirit).

    I’m impressed. Keep keepin’ it real!

    • Jerome Loring says:

      False! False! False!!!!

      • Thomas Miller says:

        I see there is a Paul worshiper in the midst. Well that’s fine but when you remove doctrine and theology from Pauline, what do you have? You have a bully by the name of Paul. A man that didn’t get along well with Peter or James the Just. A man who did not walk with Jesus and contradicted his own seeing on the road to Damascus. The Pauline doctrine has caused harm to the people of faith. Yeah I know, the pious, the controlling like Paul. There are many, many Christians who should call themselves Paulines. Paul’s narcissistic behavior of considering the Gospel “his Gospel” would fit well in today’s world. It’s time to put Paul on the shelf of antiquity and start teaching the love of Jesus.

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